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> ... there’s a plausible case that a portion of the blame for the war is due to climate related ... No, there really isn't, and if PNAS is making such claims,

> ... there’s a plausible case that a portion of the blame for the war is due to climate related ... No, there really isn't, and if PNAS is making such claims, they should be derided. The authors should also be closely examined for why they might be making such preposterous claims; they may belong to governments or groups which ... actually caused the conflict in Syria. Such assertions are transparent propaganda which should be laughed to scorn by any numerate person.

Udik 7y ago
Agreed, and yet here we are. People flood the streets to campaign against climate change and when a deranged president in the White House brings the world on the edge of a new major war everybody keep their mouths shut. Most of the climate change discourse is nothing but a huge distraction from the real issues of the world.
- cloverich 7y ago
  Climate change affects everyone and has a straight forward fix (elect people who care). Raising awareness is, in effect, all that is necessary from the people. Syria is far more complicated and most people don't even know who the main factions are, or who is fighting them. Or how to stop it. Or why it started. Etc.
  - Udik 7y ago
    > has a straight forward fix How can you be so simplistic? CO2 is a byproduct of basically everything we do. We can change that but it's not at all straightforward, quick or painless. > Syria is far more complicated Of climate science? Come on... Climate change seems to be the only issue that has any activism left: and it sure the powerful think it's a great outlet for people's desire for change. One huge issue that explains everything that is going badly in the world, while being so far removed from actual events and the responsibilities involved as to leave political actors entirely free- except from getting a bit of flak from a sixteen year old now and then.

Udik 7y ago

Agreed, and yet here we are. People flood the streets to campaign against climate change and when a deranged president in the White House brings the world on the edge of a new major war everybody keep their mouths shut. Most of the climate change discourse is nothing but a huge distraction from the real issues of the world.

cloverich 7y ago
Climate change affects everyone and has a straight forward fix (elect people who care). Raising awareness is, in effect, all that is necessary from the people. Syria is far more complicated and most people don't even know who the main factions are, or who is fighting them. Or how to stop it. Or why it started. Etc.
- Udik 7y ago
  > has a straight forward fix How can you be so simplistic? CO2 is a byproduct of basically everything we do. We can change that but it's not at all straightforward, quick or painless. > Syria is far more complicated Of climate science? Come on... Climate change seems to be the only issue that has any activism left: and it sure the powerful think it's a great outlet for people's desire for change. One huge issue that explains everything that is going badly in the world, while being so far removed from actual events and the responsibilities involved as to leave political actors entirely free- except from getting a bit of flak from a sixteen year old now and then.