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Him leaving Japan is undoubtedly illegal and not excusable. However if I understand the allegations correctly, he stole a bunch of money from a company he was r

by terryf 7y ago

Him leaving Japan is undoubtedly illegal and not excusable. However if I understand the allegations correctly, he stole a bunch of money from a company he was running. Putting him to jail for 10 years for stealing $5m from a company that he just made $4bn for seems a bit harsh. Then again, Japan has the right to decide that so my opinion is irrelevant.

nihonde 7y ago
In Japan, stealing even a small amount is treated harshly. Recently, I recall that a member of Abe’s cabinet lost his political career because his staff mis-allocated a few hundred dollars worth of lunch receipts, which were erroneously charged to public accounts. Some people see it as disproportionate, but remember that you are expected to be even harsher in judging yourself in these situations. There’s a whole secondary wave of shame if you don’t one-up the required penalty voluntarily.
- ekianjo 7y ago
  > stealing even a small amount is treated harshly. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Numerous politicians have been found stealing public money for their own benefit and I am still waiting to see any of them going in jail. Some even make a comeback on the scene so the whole idea that shame ends your career is a big joke.
  - nihonde 7y ago
    I’m going to overlook your incredibly insulting tone and just cite a few readily-available sources in English: https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/10/25/national/politics-diplomacy/trade-minister-isshu-sugawara-resigns/ https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/10/25/national/politi... http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/AJ201910260032.html http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/AJ201910260032.html https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46267868 https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46267868 https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20190405/p2a/00m/0na/002000c https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20190405/p2a/00m/0na/00...

by terryf 7y ago

nihonde 7y ago

In Japan, stealing even a small amount is treated harshly. Recently, I recall that a member of Abe’s cabinet lost his political career because his staff mis-allocated a few hundred dollars worth of lunch receipts, which were erroneously charged to public accounts. Some people see it as disproportionate, but remember that you are expected to be even harsher in judging yourself in these situations. There’s a whole secondary wave of shame if you don’t one-up the required penalty voluntarily.

ekianjo 7y ago
> stealing even a small amount is treated harshly. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Numerous politicians have been found stealing public money for their own benefit and I am still waiting to see any of them going in jail. Some even make a comeback on the scene so the whole idea that shame ends your career is a big joke.
- nihonde 7y ago
  I’m going to overlook your incredibly insulting tone and just cite a few readily-available sources in English: https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/10/25/national/politics-diplomacy/trade-minister-isshu-sugawara-resigns/ https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/10/25/national/politi... http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/AJ201910260032.html http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/AJ201910260032.html https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46267868 https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46267868 https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20190405/p2a/00m/0na/002000c https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20190405/p2a/00m/0na/00...