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So what’s the deal with Japan supposedly regularly xraying luggage going onto private jets? That’s not the norm in most of the world. Generally you xray for se

So what’s the deal with Japan supposedly regularly xraying luggage going onto private jets? That’s not the norm in most of the world. Generally you xray for security, not for customs purposes. Nobody is going to bring a bomb on their own (or rented) private jet.

rv-de 7y ago
I know that in Germany those security measures are only in place at large public airports. Small airports where private jets are coming and going don't check luggage. I think this problem exists in most countries. This is possibly how Kashoggi's body got flown out or how sheiks return fled daughters and wifes. (https://www.tagesspiegel.de/gesellschaft/sicherheitsluecken-an-flugplaetzen-reiche-werden-nicht-kontrolliert/22852408.html https://www.tagesspiegel.de/gesellschaft/sicherheitsluecken-...)
- ryanlol 7y ago
  >I think this problem exists in most countries. Why is this a problem? The purported reason for checking luggage is security. Checking luggage going on to private jets does not provide a similar security benefit as it may for scheduled airline services. For customs there are separate spot checks, but usually on arrival as it usually doesn’t make much sense to be concerned about illegal exports. Human trafficking is a separate issue, FBO staff and private jet operators should be trained to combat such just like normal airlines do. That training works, I’ve been on the receiving end of it as a suspected human trafficker. (My friend told the gate agent to look at my phone for his ticket because he doesn’t own one. We were both briefly detained until the airline had someone talk to him in his native language and verify that he’s there by his own free will)
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rospaya 7y ago
Are you implying it's ok to blow up your own jet? What if it was planted? What if it's smuggling?
- ryanlol 7y ago
  I’m implying that people don’t blow up their own jets, this isn’t something that’s worth combatting. For insurance fraud you’re better off setting the aircraft on fire on the ground or ditching the aircraft in water. Odds are that you’ll end up like Theodore Wright if you start doing that though. > What if it was planted? Many (most?) FBOs offer paid security checks if that’s something you’re concerned about. I see no reason for why these should be mandatory. > What if it's smuggling? Customs issue, separate from the security checks. Normally customs just does spot checks, it’d be super unusual to check everything.

rv-de 7y ago

I know that in Germany those security measures are only in place at large public airports. Small airports where private jets are coming and going don't check luggage. I think this problem exists in most countries. This is possibly how Kashoggi's body got flown out or how sheiks return fled daughters and wifes. (https://www.tagesspiegel.de/gesellschaft/sicherheitsluecken-an-flugplaetzen-reiche-werden-nicht-kontrolliert/22852408.html https://www.tagesspiegel.de/gesellschaft/sicherheitsluecken-...)

ryanlol 7y ago
>I think this problem exists in most countries. Why is this a problem? The purported reason for checking luggage is security. Checking luggage going on to private jets does not provide a similar security benefit as it may for scheduled airline services. For customs there are separate spot checks, but usually on arrival as it usually doesn’t make much sense to be concerned about illegal exports. Human trafficking is a separate issue, FBO staff and private jet operators should be trained to combat such just like normal airlines do. That training works, I’ve been on the receiving end of it as a suspected human trafficker. (My friend told the gate agent to look at my phone for his ticket because he doesn’t own one. We were both briefly detained until the airline had someone talk to him in his native language and verify that he’s there by his own free will)
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rospaya 7y ago

Are you implying it's ok to blow up your own jet? What if it was planted? What if it's smuggling?

ryanlol 7y ago
I’m implying that people don’t blow up their own jets, this isn’t something that’s worth combatting. For insurance fraud you’re better off setting the aircraft on fire on the ground or ditching the aircraft in water. Odds are that you’ll end up like Theodore Wright if you start doing that though. > What if it was planted? Many (most?) FBOs offer paid security checks if that’s something you’re concerned about. I see no reason for why these should be mandatory. > What if it's smuggling? Customs issue, separate from the security checks. Normally customs just does spot checks, it’d be super unusual to check everything.