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The police arrested him based on the facts they have. I assume there will still be a trial and he can argument that his family was threatened, but from what we

by aflag 7y ago

The police arrested him based on the facts they have. I assume there will still be a trial and he can argument that his family was threatened, but from what we know, there's not that much evidence for that.

mrtksn 7y ago
The exact same thing could have been said for Ghosn. But hey, He is special so it is O.K. for him not to face trial and land other people in jail in the process and those people should face a trial. Right?
- jonathanstrange 7y ago
  No. You seem to falsely assume that nobody has empathy for the guy who was arrested. I personally think that it was alright for Ghosn to flee, because the Japanese "justice" system is inherently unjust. It does not fulfill the basic requirements for due process, and that is also the reason why e.g. France has already stated they would not extradite him if he came to France. At the same time it is very regrettable that someone in Turkey was arrested for helping him. I also think that the claim that his family was threatened is not very credible and likely a protection assertion. I'd be surprised if Ghosn thought about this in any other way. People tend to assert all kinds of evilness to wealthy top managers when in the end most of them are just ordinary people who made the right career choices at the right time.
  - mrtksn 7y ago
    Okay, so he was faced with a choice between being in jail and putting someone unrelated in jail, he chooses to put someone in jail and he is not evil? If anything, it seems like he chose to save some money by not paying off the logistics team and prefered some comfort by not entering Lebanon openly instead of in a box, exposing the logistics team. I think you wrongly assume that he is vilified due to him being rich. Non-CEO people who cause harm to others, forcing people to do things "or else" are also vilified. Rich or not, guilty or not, it is not O.K. to harm people for your own wellbeing. If he was ill, should he also be allowed to harvest organs from living and unwilling people because otherwise, he will die?
    - jonathanstrange 7y ago
      he wasn't faced with that choice at all.
    - FDSGSG 7y ago
      >Okay, so he was faced with a choice between being in jail and putting someone unrelated in jail, he chooses to put someone in jail and he is not evil? I'm pretty sure you know that this probably isn't what happened here.
- aflag 7y ago
  No. He did successfully fled, however. The police didn't manage to catch him in time.

by aflag 7y ago

mrtksn 7y ago

The exact same thing could have been said for Ghosn. But hey, He is special so it is O.K. for him not to face trial and land other people in jail in the process and those people should face a trial. Right?

jonathanstrange 7y ago
No. You seem to falsely assume that nobody has empathy for the guy who was arrested. I personally think that it was alright for Ghosn to flee, because the Japanese "justice" system is inherently unjust. It does not fulfill the basic requirements for due process, and that is also the reason why e.g. France has already stated they would not extradite him if he came to France. At the same time it is very regrettable that someone in Turkey was arrested for helping him. I also think that the claim that his family was threatened is not very credible and likely a protection assertion. I'd be surprised if Ghosn thought about this in any other way. People tend to assert all kinds of evilness to wealthy top managers when in the end most of them are just ordinary people who made the right career choices at the right time.
- mrtksn 7y ago
  Okay, so he was faced with a choice between being in jail and putting someone unrelated in jail, he chooses to put someone in jail and he is not evil? If anything, it seems like he chose to save some money by not paying off the logistics team and prefered some comfort by not entering Lebanon openly instead of in a box, exposing the logistics team. I think you wrongly assume that he is vilified due to him being rich. Non-CEO people who cause harm to others, forcing people to do things "or else" are also vilified. Rich or not, guilty or not, it is not O.K. to harm people for your own wellbeing. If he was ill, should he also be allowed to harvest organs from living and unwilling people because otherwise, he will die?
  - jonathanstrange 7y ago
    he wasn't faced with that choice at all.
  - FDSGSG 7y ago
    >Okay, so he was faced with a choice between being in jail and putting someone unrelated in jail, he chooses to put someone in jail and he is not evil? I'm pretty sure you know that this probably isn't what happened here.
aflag 7y ago
No. He did successfully fled, however. The police didn't manage to catch him in time.