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I don’t believe the justice of France or USA is any better. Ghosn seems to be discovering how swift the justice is, like in any country. USA has 95% conviction

I don’t believe the justice of France or USA is any better. Ghosn seems to be discovering how swift the justice is, like in any country. USA has 95% convictions based on plea deals, so the investigation is only complete enough to convince the accused that he is isolated enough in his jail that he won’t be able to build a defense, but the accusation is never formally proved, it’s just the accused who agrees to admit crimes. Examples vary, for example pharmacists who are legally authorized to sell legal cannabis have been convicted because they couldn’t bring proof. In France we have jihadists who get freed, rapists who get away with it because they are recently immigrated and « don’t have the western codes » (true quote from the judge), people who get French nationality after having assaulted a policeman; We also have people in jail for way lighter offenses, but who are public cases with lots of media pressure. Although I’m all for a severe justice system, and process-based justice, I’m not convinced half of the convicts are there with a proven proof from the accusation ; rather, they couldn’t defend themselves.

mytailorisrich 7y ago
It's not swift in France (very slow, actually), and it's not swift either in Japan, apparently. One issue Ghosn mentioned is that his trial(s) was being delayed possibly until next year and beyond with his Japanese lawyer telling him that the whole thing could last up to 5 years. Now, remember that the Japanese judiciary initially wanted to keep him in jail until his trial(s) and that the conditions of his bail were practically 'house arrest' with very limited contacts with his family and the world. If I were 65 years old (as he is) and risked potentially having to stay years in jail/house arrest without trial in a foreign country and then risked up to 10 years in jail after that in a country that has a 99.6% conviction rate I would do whatever I could to get the f# out of there (whether I was guilty or innocent). He had the means to do it and he did it. On a human level I cannot blame him.
ryanlol 7y ago
> Although I’m all for a severe justice system Do you have any evidence to support that this is actually a good idea? Or is it just revenge porn you’re after?

mytailorisrich 7y ago

It's not swift in France (very slow, actually), and it's not swift either in Japan, apparently. One issue Ghosn mentioned is that his trial(s) was being delayed possibly until next year and beyond with his Japanese lawyer telling him that the whole thing could last up to 5 years. Now, remember that the Japanese judiciary initially wanted to keep him in jail until his trial(s) and that the conditions of his bail were practically 'house arrest' with very limited contacts with his family and the world. If I were 65 years old (as he is) and risked potentially having to stay years in jail/house arrest without trial in a foreign country and then risked up to 10 years in jail after that in a country that has a 99.6% conviction rate I would do whatever I could to get the f# out of there (whether I was guilty or innocent). He had the means to do it and he did it. On a human level I cannot blame him.

ryanlol 7y ago

> Although I’m all for a severe justice system Do you have any evidence to support that this is actually a good idea? Or is it just revenge porn you’re after?