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In the promotion video they end on it saying that the display is «great for coding». I have really never thought about using an E Ink display for programming ta

by opdahl 7y ago

In the promotion video they end on it saying that the display is «great for coding». I have really never thought about using an E Ink display for programming tasks, but given low enough latency and a well lit office wouldn’t it be the ideal solution compared to normal LED/LCD backlight type displays? From my experience using an Kindle it is way less eye strain, and reducing the amount of strain, in this case hours every day, would have to have a positive effect over time. Maybe in the future it will be normal to have dedicated E Ink programming displays.

srmatto 7y ago
I've been waiting for this technology to improve to the point that a laptop or portable computer could be made to write code while outdoors.
- prox 7y ago
  It is almost as if for some reason they don’t want programmers outdoors ;) But on a serious note this could be THE e-ink killer feature to propel it in the market.
  - TuringTest 7y ago
    You may want to check Boox Max2 monitor mode ;-) https://youtu.be/SSv0g-pYMAk?t=603 https://youtu.be/SSv0g-pYMAk?t=603
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- lolc 7y ago
  My understanding is that Eink is sitting on a lot of patents describing these displays. When the first will expire in a few years we will hopefully see competition with new formats.
  - ryall 7y ago
    By that time, maybe we’ll have high-res holo lens available, and eink will have missed the boat
    - abdulmuhaimin 7y ago
      thats a vastly different usecase. Just like eink is still currently the best screen for ereader, it still gonna be relevant for programming once it came out with better refresh rate suitable for programming screen. You underestimate the value of not having your eyes strained. And battery life as extra. Pretty sure "holo lens" and other alternative gonna fail those aspects, at the very least
      - TuringTest 7y ago
        Models based on the Canvas technology with A2 refresh mode are quite up to the task for programming, if you can stand a little ghosting here and there. The problem is, they're small (13'' max), and obviously more expensive, but not more than a decent gaming monitor.
kalleboo 7y ago
The guy behind the Technology Connections YouTube channel writes his scripts using an eInk Android tablet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D38dcArwCNc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D38dcArwCNc
bebna 7y ago
I used an Kobo Aura HD (~2013 E-ink tech), with linux and is was almost fast enough to keep up with aafire. Using vim on a arm mx507 wasn't that fast anyway, so that the screen wasn't really a problem. It would have been a useful system for when you only stay in the console, switching over to firefox was a full screen refresh that needed a sec, so I tended to avoid it. Sadly I didn't get the USB controller to accept my external keyboard in its OTG mode, which was a hack in of itself, so I dropped that project again, but I still look from some time to time for a way to do it again. Greyscale works as syntax highlighting, you do can get used to it after time. But what greyscale does to you is that isn't that interesting to you anymore to look at the screen, so you do start get "bored" from it and the eye starts to wander around looking for something else perhaps pretty to look at. Nice if you want to look often enough out of the window, but annoying if you have work to do. For at dark at night coding it isn't that bad. But having an AMOLED with the right colourscheme and low lightness setting is more pleasing I found.
- temptemptemp111 7y ago
  Kobo is still the most open e-ink device ya? And yes, reading is so different from programming - for long hours reading, I still think e-ink is the best, but depends on ambient lighting.
  - UserIsUnused 7y ago
    problem is color. An e-ink is enough to program on emacs all day, but color highlights is a missing feature. Maybe when patents expire, the tech will improve faster allowing for acessible color ones.
Normal_gaussian 7y ago
I'm waiting for a passable enough display shy of £1k so that I can work outside. It sounds like there might already be one but its quite hard to find and test them! For indoor use it has to achieve a lot more. But I would use one as a primary display to rest my eyes more.

by opdahl 7y ago

srmatto 7y ago

I've been waiting for this technology to improve to the point that a laptop or portable computer could be made to write code while outdoors.

prox 7y ago
It is almost as if for some reason they don’t want programmers outdoors ;) But on a serious note this could be THE e-ink killer feature to propel it in the market.
- TuringTest 7y ago
  You may want to check Boox Max2 monitor mode ;-) https://youtu.be/SSv0g-pYMAk?t=603 https://youtu.be/SSv0g-pYMAk?t=603
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lolc 7y ago
My understanding is that Eink is sitting on a lot of patents describing these displays. When the first will expire in a few years we will hopefully see competition with new formats.
- ryall 7y ago
  By that time, maybe we’ll have high-res holo lens available, and eink will have missed the boat
  - abdulmuhaimin 7y ago
    thats a vastly different usecase. Just like eink is still currently the best screen for ereader, it still gonna be relevant for programming once it came out with better refresh rate suitable for programming screen. You underestimate the value of not having your eyes strained. And battery life as extra. Pretty sure "holo lens" and other alternative gonna fail those aspects, at the very least
    - TuringTest 7y ago
      Models based on the Canvas technology with A2 refresh mode are quite up to the task for programming, if you can stand a little ghosting here and there. The problem is, they're small (13'' max), and obviously more expensive, but not more than a decent gaming monitor.

kalleboo 7y ago

The guy behind the Technology Connections YouTube channel writes his scripts using an eInk Android tablet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D38dcArwCNc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D38dcArwCNc

bebna 7y ago

I used an Kobo Aura HD (~2013 E-ink tech), with linux and is was almost fast enough to keep up with aafire. Using vim on a arm mx507 wasn't that fast anyway, so that the screen wasn't really a problem. It would have been a useful system for when you only stay in the console, switching over to firefox was a full screen refresh that needed a sec, so I tended to avoid it. Sadly I didn't get the USB controller to accept my external keyboard in its OTG mode, which was a hack in of itself, so I dropped that project again, but I still look from some time to time for a way to do it again. Greyscale works as syntax highlighting, you do can get used to it after time. But what greyscale does to you is that isn't that interesting to you anymore to look at the screen, so you do start get "bored" from it and the eye starts to wander around looking for something else perhaps pretty to look at. Nice if you want to look often enough out of the window, but annoying if you have work to do. For at dark at night coding it isn't that bad. But having an AMOLED with the right colourscheme and low lightness setting is more pleasing I found.

temptemptemp111 7y ago
Kobo is still the most open e-ink device ya? And yes, reading is so different from programming - for long hours reading, I still think e-ink is the best, but depends on ambient lighting.
- UserIsUnused 7y ago
  problem is color. An e-ink is enough to program on emacs all day, but color highlights is a missing feature. Maybe when patents expire, the tech will improve faster allowing for acessible color ones.

Normal_gaussian 7y ago

I'm waiting for a passable enough display shy of £1k so that I can work outside. It sounds like there might already be one but its quite hard to find and test them! For indoor use it has to achieve a lot more. But I would use one as a primary display to rest my eyes more.