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Unfortunately with the goons at the department of "homeland" security now disconnecting businesses from "the internet" via control over root DNS servers... this

by nika 16y ago

Unfortunately with the goons at the department of "homeland" security now disconnecting businesses from "the internet" via control over root DNS servers... this seems kinda possible. These actions are not constitutional, nor are they legal. And americans are going to have to stand up to their government or before too long it will be businesses like google--which evil as some may see them is law abiding company- forced to bend over for these interests, lest they be put out of business arbitrarily.

notahacker 16y ago
Google is to big too be killed, and has already shown its willingness to play to the public gallery over government censorship. I'd assume the MPAA isn't suicidal enough to challenge them in any meaningful way.
adestefan 16y ago
If you're going to scare monger at least get your facts straight. 1. They're done with a warrant from a judge. It's no different then freezing ones banking assets. 2. They do not pull anything for the root DNS servers. Instead, they're pulled at the TLD servers (.com, .net, and .org) which are all located within the US.
- nika 16y ago
  There is no such thing as a "warrant to pull a domain" (or sieze a bank account) in the US legal system[1]. So, if a "judge" signed a piece of paper, that does not make it a warrant (legally). These were criminal acts, and that is the fact, jack. The TLD servers are root servers for the TLDs. Also, your hostility is not appropriate here. Even if someone makes errors, attacking them just says more about you than it does them. [1] Fourth amendment. The existence of a bank account is evidence, thus a warrant can be issued to seize a bank accounts records. But money is not itself evidence, it is fungible with any other money, thus these warrants are illegal under the fourth amendment, and anyone participating in their service or enforcement is a felon under USC 18-242.

by nika 16y ago

notahacker 16y ago

Google is to big too be killed, and has already shown its willingness to play to the public gallery over government censorship. I'd assume the MPAA isn't suicidal enough to challenge them in any meaningful way.

adestefan 16y ago

If you're going to scare monger at least get your facts straight. 1. They're done with a warrant from a judge. It's no different then freezing ones banking assets. 2. They do not pull anything for the root DNS servers. Instead, they're pulled at the TLD servers (.com, .net, and .org) which are all located within the US.

nika 16y ago
There is no such thing as a "warrant to pull a domain" (or sieze a bank account) in the US legal system[1]. So, if a "judge" signed a piece of paper, that does not make it a warrant (legally). These were criminal acts, and that is the fact, jack. The TLD servers are root servers for the TLDs. Also, your hostility is not appropriate here. Even if someone makes errors, attacking them just says more about you than it does them. [1] Fourth amendment. The existence of a bank account is evidence, thus a warrant can be issued to seize a bank accounts records. But money is not itself evidence, it is fungible with any other money, thus these warrants are illegal under the fourth amendment, and anyone participating in their service or enforcement is a felon under USC 18-242.