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Well they could have picked up one of the other less-dominate browser engines. WebKit and Firefox are good starting points, and both could use the extra help ma

by duhi88 7y ago

Well they could have picked up one of the other less-dominate browser engines. WebKit and Firefox are good starting points, and both could use the extra help maintaining their open-source core. I get that they wanted to use the same browser as Electron, now that they own it...it just sucks.

microcolonel 7y ago
The general quality of Firefox is worse, the tooling is more fiddly, some of it is written in languages which are not as familiar to Microsoft, it is considerably less straightforward to customize; and on top of this, performance is similar at best. Chromium has an architecture which lends itself to deep integration, and the default UI is much closer to Microsoft's own designs. > WebKit and Firefox are good starting points, and both could use the extra help maintaining their open-source core. If Firefox needs "help" from a big boy like Microsoft, it is probably the worse starting point. If WebKit is a good starting point, why is Blink worse? Chromium is more than Blink, and means that the moment Microsoft started with Chromium, they were already close to done. Whereas with WebKit, they would still have to build and test a shell. It doesn't suck.
- millstone 7y ago
  What is Microsoft hoping to achieve? "Starting point" for what? Is MS foolish enough to believe they can have influence on the evolution of the web through github.com/google/chromium pull requests? Alternatively, has MS has given up? Perhaps they are content to rebrand Chrome and collect the bing.com seignorage from new Windows installs. Unless they fork, it's either naïveté or negotiated surrender.
  - microcolonel 7y ago
    > Is MS foolish enough to believe they can have influence on the evolution of the web through github.com/google/chromium pull requests? I mean, "influencing the web" or otherwise, they accept heaps and heaps of patches that aren't about their core business. The Chromium project is really healthy. > Unless they fork, it's either naïveté or negotiated surrender. They can fork, but they probably won't need to. Even if they wanted to maintain an entirely separate shell, it is basically trivial to link such a thing in to Chromium.
- emayljames 7y ago
  That of course is personal conjecture, of which mine is the exact opposite.

by duhi88 7y ago

microcolonel 7y ago

The general quality of Firefox is worse, the tooling is more fiddly, some of it is written in languages which are not as familiar to Microsoft, it is considerably less straightforward to customize; and on top of this, performance is similar at best. Chromium has an architecture which lends itself to deep integration, and the default UI is much closer to Microsoft's own designs. > WebKit and Firefox are good starting points, and both could use the extra help maintaining their open-source core. If Firefox needs "help" from a big boy like Microsoft, it is probably the worse starting point. If WebKit is a good starting point, why is Blink worse? Chromium is more than Blink, and means that the moment Microsoft started with Chromium, they were already close to done. Whereas with WebKit, they would still have to build and test a shell. It doesn't suck.

millstone 7y ago
What is Microsoft hoping to achieve? "Starting point" for what? Is MS foolish enough to believe they can have influence on the evolution of the web through github.com/google/chromium pull requests? Alternatively, has MS has given up? Perhaps they are content to rebrand Chrome and collect the bing.com seignorage from new Windows installs. Unless they fork, it's either naïveté or negotiated surrender.
- microcolonel 7y ago
  > Is MS foolish enough to believe they can have influence on the evolution of the web through github.com/google/chromium pull requests? I mean, "influencing the web" or otherwise, they accept heaps and heaps of patches that aren't about their core business. The Chromium project is really healthy. > Unless they fork, it's either naïveté or negotiated surrender. They can fork, but they probably won't need to. Even if they wanted to maintain an entirely separate shell, it is basically trivial to link such a thing in to Chromium.
emayljames 7y ago
That of course is personal conjecture, of which mine is the exact opposite.