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>is that person really bringing 2.5 millions dollar worth of value to the company Change the number and this will apply to most CEOs. https://www.glassdoor.co

>is that person really bringing 2.5 millions dollar worth of value to the company Change the number and this will apply to most CEOs. https://www.glassdoor.com/research/ceo-pay-ratio/ https://www.glassdoor.com/research/ceo-pay-ratio/ According to these numbers, CEOs work 204 times as hard as regular employees.

melling 7y ago
How much harder do software developers work than coal miners?
- kps 7y ago
  You write 16 lines and what do you get? Another CL and technical debt.
- zobzu 7y ago
  Jobs do not have to be physically exhausting to be hard. Coal miner's job is hard and deadly. programming is differently hard and not very deadly (arguably working at a desk, wreaking your brain 70h a week with 10 days off a year is somewhat deadly). i'd take the programming job any day as long as I get a bay area salary, granted that I can program. However, i can tell you most programmer jobs are much harder, take much more hours than many lower paying jobs (not even mentioning the fact that you need to be somewhat smart and learn it for years before you can do anything). Say drive a bus? Yeah its boring. But its not hard. Hold a 2 pers. shop? nope, not hard, and you do less hours. Etc. Heck even driving the trucks to the coal miners pay very well for a somewhat hard job.
jaywalk 7y ago
> CEOs work 204 times as hard as regular employees That's an interesting (and ridiculous) way to spin the numbers. One doesn't have to work x times harder to bring x times more value to a company.
- minikites 7y ago
  So you're saying success isn't a function of how hard you work?
  - catalogia 7y ago
    Value isn't solely a function of effort, no. Some activities are more fruitful than others. This is a universal truth by the way, not simply a property of our current economic system. If I work up a sweat driving nails into wood with a hammer, that won't make whatever I'm creating stronger than if I used an electric screwdriver or nailgun.
- swfsql 7y ago
  They said that on purpose. They are (implied) criticizing, on their own terms, something they said themselves. Strawnman parrying.
smm2000 7y ago
And average Google engineer work 15x harder than average WalMart employee in US and 200x harder than laborer in India.

melling 7y ago

How much harder do software developers work than coal miners?

kps 7y ago
You write 16 lines and what do you get? Another CL and technical debt.
zobzu 7y ago
Jobs do not have to be physically exhausting to be hard. Coal miner's job is hard and deadly. programming is differently hard and not very deadly (arguably working at a desk, wreaking your brain 70h a week with 10 days off a year is somewhat deadly). i'd take the programming job any day as long as I get a bay area salary, granted that I can program. However, i can tell you most programmer jobs are much harder, take much more hours than many lower paying jobs (not even mentioning the fact that you need to be somewhat smart and learn it for years before you can do anything). Say drive a bus? Yeah its boring. But its not hard. Hold a 2 pers. shop? nope, not hard, and you do less hours. Etc. Heck even driving the trucks to the coal miners pay very well for a somewhat hard job.

jaywalk 7y ago

> CEOs work 204 times as hard as regular employees That's an interesting (and ridiculous) way to spin the numbers. One doesn't have to work x times harder to bring x times more value to a company.

minikites 7y ago
So you're saying success isn't a function of how hard you work?
- catalogia 7y ago
  Value isn't solely a function of effort, no. Some activities are more fruitful than others. This is a universal truth by the way, not simply a property of our current economic system. If I work up a sweat driving nails into wood with a hammer, that won't make whatever I'm creating stronger than if I used an electric screwdriver or nailgun.
swfsql 7y ago
They said that on purpose. They are (implied) criticizing, on their own terms, something they said themselves. Strawnman parrying.

smm2000 7y ago

And average Google engineer work 15x harder than average WalMart employee in US and 200x harder than laborer in India.