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If someone told the young Linux freak me back in the early 2000s that one day Internet Explorer’s rendering engine is based on the KDE rendering engine I would’

If someone told the young Linux freak me back in the early 2000s that one day Internet Explorer’s rendering engine is based on the KDE rendering engine I would’ve probably died laughing and frozen in horror at the same time. Yeah, I realize there’s probably nothing left if the old KHTML but it still does give me a chuckle.

cptskippy 7y ago
Internet Explorer and Edge are two different products and co-exist. I wouldn't expect a Unix user to understand the difference though.
loudmax 7y ago
But one wouldn't have been surprised to find out that the Microsoft's KHTML based browser doesn't run on any open source operating system.
- arusahni 7y ago
  IIRC it exists for Android.
  - vermilingua 7y ago
    Android is open source in the same way that Chrome is. That is to say, not.
    - arusahni 7y ago
      I'd contend that it is closer to Chromium as the Googley bits are in Play Services and OEM builds.
- SyneRyder 7y ago
  Not yet, but a Linux version of Edge is coming later: https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-edge-confirmed-coming-linux-future https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-edge-confirmed-comi...
mike_d 7y ago
An open source project released by Apple, that Google added a bunch of features to - including DRM, and Microsoft adopted to help unify the web for internal enterprise apps. What a world we live in.
- xp84 7y ago
  The story is told well by this user agent string: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_14_6) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/79.0.3945.117 Safari/537.36 Edg/79.0.309.65 "Edg"* , like Chrome, like Safari/AppleWebKit, like KHTML, like Gecko, like Mozilla 5.0. My lord, this ridiculous header is f'ed (and I don't mean this string, just this entire ridiculous slow-motion trainwreck that requires every browser to pretend to be every browser that ever came before). \* presuming that spelling means 'please don't lock me out like Edge' -- modern Chromium Opera identifies as OPR, similarly
jzl 7y ago
Hah. So true. Not to mention that Windows would one day have available an entirely integrated linux kernel direct from Microsoft[1]. [1] https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/announcing-wsl-2/ https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/announcing-wsl-2/
elproxy 7y ago
There's still plenty of references and small but essential stuff. One notorious example that comes to mind is the KURL name that stuck: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/blink.git/+/master/Source/platform/weborigin/KURL.h https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/blink.git/+/maste...
- kerpele 7y ago
  That's awesome! Although, all copyrights are Apple's on that particular file. I wonder if everything's been done by the book.

cptskippy 7y ago

Internet Explorer and Edge are two different products and co-exist. I wouldn't expect a Unix user to understand the difference though.

loudmax 7y ago

But one wouldn't have been surprised to find out that the Microsoft's KHTML based browser doesn't run on any open source operating system.

arusahni 7y ago
IIRC it exists for Android.
- vermilingua 7y ago
  Android is open source in the same way that Chrome is. That is to say, not.
  - arusahni 7y ago
    I'd contend that it is closer to Chromium as the Googley bits are in Play Services and OEM builds.
SyneRyder 7y ago
Not yet, but a Linux version of Edge is coming later: https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-edge-confirmed-coming-linux-future https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-edge-confirmed-comi...

mike_d 7y ago

An open source project released by Apple, that Google added a bunch of features to - including DRM, and Microsoft adopted to help unify the web for internal enterprise apps. What a world we live in.

xp84 7y ago
The story is told well by this user agent string: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_14_6) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/79.0.3945.117 Safari/537.36 Edg/79.0.309.65 "Edg"* , like Chrome, like Safari/AppleWebKit, like KHTML, like Gecko, like Mozilla 5.0. My lord, this ridiculous header is f'ed (and I don't mean this string, just this entire ridiculous slow-motion trainwreck that requires every browser to pretend to be every browser that ever came before). \* presuming that spelling means 'please don't lock me out like Edge' -- modern Chromium Opera identifies as OPR, similarly

jzl 7y ago

Hah. So true. Not to mention that Windows would one day have available an entirely integrated linux kernel direct from Microsoft[1]. [1] https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/announcing-wsl-2/ https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/announcing-wsl-2/

elproxy 7y ago

There's still plenty of references and small but essential stuff. One notorious example that comes to mind is the KURL name that stuck: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/blink.git/+/master/Source/platform/weborigin/KURL.h https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/blink.git/+/maste...

kerpele 7y ago
That's awesome! Although, all copyrights are Apple's on that particular file. I wonder if everything's been done by the book.