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> "There are other mobile ecosystems. We will disrupt them. There will be challenges. We will overcome them. Success requires speed. We will be swift. Together,

by zmmmmm 16y ago

> "There are other mobile ecosystems. We will disrupt them. There will be challenges. We will overcome them. Success requires speed. We will be swift. Together, we see the opportunity, and we have the will, the resources and the drive to succeed." This is my main problem with this deal: both parties are hoping that by combining they will achieve something totally uncharacteristic of both of them individually. Neither MS or Nokia have been fast at anything for the last 10 years. Are they really going to suddenly be nimble together? (I guess I'm just spelling out the "two drowning people tied together" analogy).

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rbanffy 16y ago
My favorite quote about this is "beause two bricks float better than one". I no longer know where I heard it first.
- whatusername 16y ago
  Were you thinking of this: http://twitter.com/#!/vicgundotra/status/35182523650801664 http://twitter.com/#!/vicgundotra/status/35182523650801664 #feb11 "Two turkeys do not make an Eagle". From Vic Gundotra. // Although there is prior art for the saying -- he was the one to apply it to Microkia/Nokisoft
  - rbanffy 16y ago
    No, it's from well before that. Vic's quote is right on spot, btw.
- speleding 16y ago
  I know that one as "you can't tie two bricks together to make a life boat"
InclinedPlane 16y ago
This is crazy talk. It's interesting that HP had the same crazy talk for its relaunch of webOS. It's one thing to say "yeah, we can put out a quality product that can hold its own and go toe to toe with any other product in the market", it's another thing entirely to say "absolutely positively we will turn this product into a world beater, we will utterly dominate this industry soon" ... starting from a niche position at the bottom of the crowd. The former is sane, and capable of being fulfilled. The latter is not sane and a recipe for self-sabotage and failure.
- zmmmmm 16y ago
  > "absolutely positively we will turn this product into a world beater, we will utterly dominate this industry soon" Yes, exactly. It's one thing to make an ambitious and bold play for a new market. But this is Nokia's main bread and butter at stake here. If WP7 doesn't gain huge market share then Nokia is going to have a disaster. It's quite breathtaking to see them play russian roulette with their future like this.
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lhnz 16y ago
Microsoft hasn't been fast at anything? edit; I'm not trolling. I'm just saying think about what you're saying. Who got out their next-generation console first? Microsoft was one year early! Is the kinect innovative? Yes. Is Microsoft really /that/ bad?

by zmmmmm 16y ago

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rbanffy 16y ago

My favorite quote about this is "beause two bricks float better than one". I no longer know where I heard it first.

whatusername 16y ago
Were you thinking of this: http://twitter.com/#!/vicgundotra/status/35182523650801664 http://twitter.com/#!/vicgundotra/status/35182523650801664 #feb11 "Two turkeys do not make an Eagle". From Vic Gundotra. // Although there is prior art for the saying -- he was the one to apply it to Microkia/Nokisoft
- rbanffy 16y ago
  No, it's from well before that. Vic's quote is right on spot, btw.
speleding 16y ago
I know that one as "you can't tie two bricks together to make a life boat"

InclinedPlane 16y ago

This is crazy talk. It's interesting that HP had the same crazy talk for its relaunch of webOS. It's one thing to say "yeah, we can put out a quality product that can hold its own and go toe to toe with any other product in the market", it's another thing entirely to say "absolutely positively we will turn this product into a world beater, we will utterly dominate this industry soon" ... starting from a niche position at the bottom of the crowd. The former is sane, and capable of being fulfilled. The latter is not sane and a recipe for self-sabotage and failure.

zmmmmm 16y ago
> "absolutely positively we will turn this product into a world beater, we will utterly dominate this industry soon" Yes, exactly. It's one thing to make an ambitious and bold play for a new market. But this is Nokia's main bread and butter at stake here. If WP7 doesn't gain huge market share then Nokia is going to have a disaster. It's quite breathtaking to see them play russian roulette with their future like this.

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lhnz 16y ago

Microsoft hasn't been fast at anything? edit; I'm not trolling. I'm just saying think about what you're saying. Who got out their next-generation console first? Microsoft was one year early! Is the kinect innovative? Yes. Is Microsoft really /that/ bad?