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Am i the only person here who finds this really exciting?Windows 7 is probably the best piece of software I have ever used, and yes I have a MacBook pro and an

by jquery 16y ago

Am i the only person here who finds this really exciting?Windows 7 is probably the best piece of software I have ever used, and yes I have a MacBook pro and an iPhone so I'm not some fanboy. So the world's best OS is about to be put on some of the best mobile hardware available, with two juggernaut companies putting their very survival on the line. I am so glad the market is getting shaken up like this, no matter what happens the consumers will be the ultimate winners of such brutal competition. Android can no longer coast on being the only good alternative to iOS.

vegai 16y ago
Windows 7 isn't Windows Mobile 7, is it? The latter has been a full rewrite, so in many ways, it's completely different from everything else they have. Not that it couldn't be good, just that you cannot automatically think that it is from Windows 7's qualities.
- jquery 16y ago
  I didn't know that, but in no way does it really dampen my enthusiasm. To me, Win7 proved Microsoft was still King of OS's, so I can't wait to see their upcoming flagship mobile product. I am sure they will take the lessons of Android and iOS to heart with the first major launch of this partnership. This is a huge opportunity for both companies to take the mobile world by storm. Color me disappointed if this fails, but I think it has more potential to shake up the industry than anything else announced so far thus year.
  - rbanffy 16y ago
    > Win7 proved Microsoft was still King of OS's, No fanboy, you say...
    - Stormbringer 16y ago
      Say what you like, but up until the XBox ring of death debacle Microsoft made really good hardware.
    - loewenskind 16y ago
      Good catch. Windows has never been the king of OS's ever. They've been spectacular at marketing to Corporations, etc., but their OS's have always been "within range" or worse than the alternatives.
    - deleted 16y ago
      [deleted]
    - jquery 16y ago
      Fine, I'm a fanboy, who owns lots of competitors products because I got confused at the mall.
  - krmmalik 16y ago
    I heartily agree with you on this point. I was quite suprised to see the lack of enthusiasm on this announcement. I'm someone thats used a Mac quite extensively over the past year, and i have an iPhone too. Yet, i've just gone back to a Windows machine. Windows 7. Its a damn good OS, and you are right. I hope they can find a way of bringing that goodness to their mobile platform. Lots of nice little surprises in Windows 7, so im hoping we'll see that in the Mobile OS when it matures a little more. Everyone said the XBOX was going to be a disaster, and regardless of HOW MS did it, they STILL did it. MS is perfectly capable of winning when it really, really wants too. Will many developers seriously considering WP7, just for the ease of migration, and Nokia's logistics; executed properly this COULD be a win win.
- Splines 16y ago
  As a platform, WP7 is great (mostly). The problem is that there is a dearth of quality apps. I installed the Youtube app, and it's just a wrapper for their mobile page! Really?
arethuza 16y ago
At a technical level, what does Windows Mobile 7 have to do with Windows 7? Very little I suspect.
- rbanffy 16y ago
  Both were developed on Visual Studio?
  - arethuza 16y ago
    Does MS really do OS development in Visual Studio? [NB I rather like Visual Studio, but I don't think I'd do OS development using it]
    - rbanffy 16y ago
      I am quite sure they don't use Emacs on Linux ;-)
      - kentnl 16y ago
        Yeah, being eVIl, they probably use Vi.
        rbanffy 16y ago
        Well... I assume they could use Monodevelop on BSD...
        cryptoz 16y ago
        As rms might say, "vi vi vi, the number of the beast"
      - shadowfox 16y ago
        There certainly seemed to be people using Emacs on Macs :)
        16y ago
rbanffy 16y ago
> Am i the only person here who finds this really exciting? Microsoft execs from the mobile division will have huge bonuses this year. They must be very excited. > Windows 7 is probably the best piece of software I have ever used I had to force myself not to laugh. What have you been using, pal? > and yes I have a MacBook pro and an iPhone Seriously, what's so good about Windows 7? > so I'm not some fanboy Nobody accused you of being one, yet. > with two juggernaut companies putting their very survival on the line Only Nokia is dying. Microsoft will go on for at least a couple decades before it hits the ground. > no matter what happens the consumers will be the ultimate winners of such brutal competition We will have the same number of competing platforms (Nokia won't be the only one selling WP7) at the cost of losing one stellar hardware supplier. No. That won't be good. The thing is, with Android, when Samsung makes something good to it, everybody benefits, LG, Motorola, the Apache Harmony folks and it trickles all the way to Red Hat, IBM and even Oracle. Even Microsoft, because a lot of their stack is BSD-ish and Microsoft can incorporate it, no questions asked, into whatever products they want. If Nokia ever succeeds in making something that kind of makes WinMo7 suck less (I gather it's a somewhat decent platform) Microsoft stands to benefit the most.
- Keyframe 16y ago
  Seriously, what's so good about Windows 7? Can't speak for OP, but it's the first windows version that 'just works' :) And that means a lot when you have to use windows.
  - cema 16y ago
    "When you have to use windows" is the key here. Many people have to use a windows desktop. But the situation is different on the phone.
- suivix 16y ago
  Have to disagree with you about Windows 7. It's the best OS ever made for personal computers, especially for 64 bit.
siika2000 16y ago
> Windows 7 is probably the best piece of software I have ever used 1) Maybe you should use more software (not that W7 is bad, but I wouldn't say it's the best evar) 2) Windows Phone 7 isn't Windows 7, not even close.

by jquery 16y ago

vegai 16y ago

Windows 7 isn't Windows Mobile 7, is it? The latter has been a full rewrite, so in many ways, it's completely different from everything else they have. Not that it couldn't be good, just that you cannot automatically think that it is from Windows 7's qualities.

jquery 16y ago
I didn't know that, but in no way does it really dampen my enthusiasm. To me, Win7 proved Microsoft was still King of OS's, so I can't wait to see their upcoming flagship mobile product. I am sure they will take the lessons of Android and iOS to heart with the first major launch of this partnership. This is a huge opportunity for both companies to take the mobile world by storm. Color me disappointed if this fails, but I think it has more potential to shake up the industry than anything else announced so far thus year.
- rbanffy 16y ago
  > Win7 proved Microsoft was still King of OS's, No fanboy, you say...
  - Stormbringer 16y ago
    Say what you like, but up until the XBox ring of death debacle Microsoft made really good hardware.
  - loewenskind 16y ago
    Good catch. Windows has never been the king of OS's ever. They've been spectacular at marketing to Corporations, etc., but their OS's have always been "within range" or worse than the alternatives.
  - deleted 16y ago
    [deleted]
  - jquery 16y ago
    Fine, I'm a fanboy, who owns lots of competitors products because I got confused at the mall.
- krmmalik 16y ago
  I heartily agree with you on this point. I was quite suprised to see the lack of enthusiasm on this announcement. I'm someone thats used a Mac quite extensively over the past year, and i have an iPhone too. Yet, i've just gone back to a Windows machine. Windows 7. Its a damn good OS, and you are right. I hope they can find a way of bringing that goodness to their mobile platform. Lots of nice little surprises in Windows 7, so im hoping we'll see that in the Mobile OS when it matures a little more. Everyone said the XBOX was going to be a disaster, and regardless of HOW MS did it, they STILL did it. MS is perfectly capable of winning when it really, really wants too. Will many developers seriously considering WP7, just for the ease of migration, and Nokia's logistics; executed properly this COULD be a win win.
Splines 16y ago
As a platform, WP7 is great (mostly). The problem is that there is a dearth of quality apps. I installed the Youtube app, and it's just a wrapper for their mobile page! Really?

arethuza 16y ago

At a technical level, what does Windows Mobile 7 have to do with Windows 7? Very little I suspect.

rbanffy 16y ago
Both were developed on Visual Studio?
- arethuza 16y ago
  Does MS really do OS development in Visual Studio? [NB I rather like Visual Studio, but I don't think I'd do OS development using it]
  - rbanffy 16y ago
    I am quite sure they don't use Emacs on Linux ;-)
    - kentnl 16y ago
      Yeah, being eVIl, they probably use Vi.
      - rbanffy 16y ago
        Well... I assume they could use Monodevelop on BSD...
      - cryptoz 16y ago
        As rms might say, "vi vi vi, the number of the beast"
    - shadowfox 16y ago
      There certainly seemed to be people using Emacs on Macs :)
      - 16y ago

rbanffy 16y ago

> Am i the only person here who finds this really exciting? Microsoft execs from the mobile division will have huge bonuses this year. They must be very excited. > Windows 7 is probably the best piece of software I have ever used I had to force myself not to laugh. What have you been using, pal? > and yes I have a MacBook pro and an iPhone Seriously, what's so good about Windows 7? > so I'm not some fanboy Nobody accused you of being one, yet. > with two juggernaut companies putting their very survival on the line Only Nokia is dying. Microsoft will go on for at least a couple decades before it hits the ground. > no matter what happens the consumers will be the ultimate winners of such brutal competition We will have the same number of competing platforms (Nokia won't be the only one selling WP7) at the cost of losing one stellar hardware supplier. No. That won't be good. The thing is, with Android, when Samsung makes something good to it, everybody benefits, LG, Motorola, the Apache Harmony folks and it trickles all the way to Red Hat, IBM and even Oracle. Even Microsoft, because a lot of their stack is BSD-ish and Microsoft can incorporate it, no questions asked, into whatever products they want. If Nokia ever succeeds in making something that kind of makes WinMo7 suck less (I gather it's a somewhat decent platform) Microsoft stands to benefit the most.

Keyframe 16y ago
Seriously, what's so good about Windows 7? Can't speak for OP, but it's the first windows version that 'just works' :) And that means a lot when you have to use windows.
- cema 16y ago
  "When you have to use windows" is the key here. Many people have to use a windows desktop. But the situation is different on the phone.
suivix 16y ago
Have to disagree with you about Windows 7. It's the best OS ever made for personal computers, especially for 64 bit.

siika2000 16y ago

> Windows 7 is probably the best piece of software I have ever used 1) Maybe you should use more software (not that W7 is bad, but I wouldn't say it's the best evar) 2) Windows Phone 7 isn't Windows 7, not even close.