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If you are looking for an open-source replacement of the Firebase Realtime Database, you might also be interested in Icepeak (https://github.com/channable/icepe

by rkrzr 7y ago

If you are looking for an open-source replacement of the Firebase Realtime Database, you might also be interested in Icepeak (https://github.com/channable/icepeak https://github.com/channable/icepeak) (full disclosure, I'm one of the authors). Icepeak was written because we were unsatisfied with the reliability and with the (occasionally) high latency of Firebase, both for pushing updates via HTTP (>1s for some requests) and for receiving updates over websockets. This was about 3 years ago though, so I hope that Google improved the quality of the service in the mean time.

bumblebee4 7y ago
That sounds interesting. Have you compared your service to pouchdb and gun? Is it possible to use icepeak in offline mode and automatically sync when getting online again? [1] https://pouchdb.com/ https://pouchdb.com/ [2] https://gun.js.org/ https://gun.js.org/
- xrd 7y ago
  PouchDB looks like the client side library. Do you still need CouchDB on the backend? I see from the mailing list it is still a very active project, which surprised me.
  - bumblebee4 7y ago
    PouchDB is CouchDB-Protocol implemented in javascript so you can run it wherever there is javascript, not just as a client. If you want to have a backend, you can use any DB that supports that protocol (there are several), which includes using a PouchDB instance run by node.js.
    - lhuser123 7y ago
      Is PouchDB + CouchDB considered an alternative to Firebase?
      - bumblebee4 7y ago
        That depends on your use case since Firebase is more than a database. Since CouchDB is from 2005 and Firebase is from 2011, it is in comparison a very mature product and protocol worth trying.
  - dsun180 7y ago
    If you want to have PouchDB without being tied to the CouchDB-backend, check out RxDB. It supports replication via GraphQL. https://github.com/pubkey/rxdb https://github.com/pubkey/rxdb
spankalee 7y ago
Firebase and AppEngine Datastore have both been superceded by Firestore, which is has the realtime features of Firebase, but the scalability and performance (better, I think) of Datastore, and more data modeling and query flexibility.
folex 7y ago
Hi! What are you using for conflict resolution? Is it CRDT? Have you seen RON? https://github.com/ff-notes/ron https://github.com/ff-notes/ron

by rkrzr 7y ago

bumblebee4 7y ago

That sounds interesting. Have you compared your service to pouchdb and gun? Is it possible to use icepeak in offline mode and automatically sync when getting online again? [1] https://pouchdb.com/ https://pouchdb.com/ [2] https://gun.js.org/ https://gun.js.org/

xrd 7y ago
PouchDB looks like the client side library. Do you still need CouchDB on the backend? I see from the mailing list it is still a very active project, which surprised me.
- bumblebee4 7y ago
  PouchDB is CouchDB-Protocol implemented in javascript so you can run it wherever there is javascript, not just as a client. If you want to have a backend, you can use any DB that supports that protocol (there are several), which includes using a PouchDB instance run by node.js.
  - lhuser123 7y ago
    Is PouchDB + CouchDB considered an alternative to Firebase?
    - bumblebee4 7y ago
      That depends on your use case since Firebase is more than a database. Since CouchDB is from 2005 and Firebase is from 2011, it is in comparison a very mature product and protocol worth trying.
- dsun180 7y ago
  If you want to have PouchDB without being tied to the CouchDB-backend, check out RxDB. It supports replication via GraphQL. https://github.com/pubkey/rxdb https://github.com/pubkey/rxdb

spankalee 7y ago

Firebase and AppEngine Datastore have both been superceded by Firestore, which is has the realtime features of Firebase, but the scalability and performance (better, I think) of Datastore, and more data modeling and query flexibility.

folex 7y ago

Hi! What are you using for conflict resolution? Is it CRDT? Have you seen RON? https://github.com/ff-notes/ron https://github.com/ff-notes/ron