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>Amusingly, there are two sets of people arguing about why Apple is bad, and each have their own argument: 1. Android sells more, and offers more variety of mob

>Amusingly, there are two sets of people arguing about why Apple is bad, and each have their own argument: 1. Android sells more, and offers more variety of mobile and wearable devices than Apple. And here’s the data to prove it. 2. Apple is a monopoly/monopsony and should be forced to allow more user choice of apps, allow sideloading, lower their prices, lower their app store cut, &c. What about 3? Apple's products are overpriced and underpowered, locked down devices sold as fashion statements or 'lifestyle' accessories that are more like toys for rich people than the miniature computers they're supposed to be. As for their computers, similar argument, overpriced, underpowered, locked down hardware. And then there's the whole culture of snobbery surrounding Apple and their products that has existed since at least the mid-late 90's about how superior Apple products are to everything else always that's just kind of grated on me...well since then.

xenadu02 7y ago
> underpowered Are you positing that someone manufactures a better and faster SOC for mobile devices?
- grawprog 7y ago
  >And then there's the whole culture of snobbery surrounding Apple and their products that has existed since at least the mid-late 90's about how superior Apple products are to everything else always that's just kind of grated on me...well since then. >Are you positing that someone manufactures a better and faster SOC for mobile devices? Thanks for proving my point.
  - pb7 7y ago
    Please make a better effort at defending your arguments than this. Apple has had the best real world performance on mobile for many years running. Their SOCs are years ahead of the competition. Bigger numbers on the spec sheet lack strong correlation to actual performance these days.
smhenderson 7y ago
I don't disagree with your opinions on Apple and their products but what in your list of bad things about them is actually illegal? Apple's products are overpriced and underpowered, locked down devices sold as fashion statements or 'lifestyle' accessories that are more like toys for rich people than the miniature computers they're supposed to be. There is nothing illegal about selling rich people toys or dumbing down a device to make it appeal to a certain type of customer. I have never really cared for Apple products in general and also think they are over priced for what you get but for me that just means I don't buy them, I don't really begrudge them making money off a customer base I just don't fit into.
- grawprog 7y ago
  >I don't disagree with your opinions on Apple and their products but what in your list of bad things about them is actually illegal? Where in the parent's quote that I was responding to was there anything about laws? I was specifically responding to: >Amusingly, there are two sets of people arguing about why Apple is bad, I see nothing about legality. I see the word bad.

xenadu02 7y ago

> underpowered Are you positing that someone manufactures a better and faster SOC for mobile devices?

grawprog 7y ago
>And then there's the whole culture of snobbery surrounding Apple and their products that has existed since at least the mid-late 90's about how superior Apple products are to everything else always that's just kind of grated on me...well since then. >Are you positing that someone manufactures a better and faster SOC for mobile devices? Thanks for proving my point.
- pb7 7y ago
  Please make a better effort at defending your arguments than this. Apple has had the best real world performance on mobile for many years running. Their SOCs are years ahead of the competition. Bigger numbers on the spec sheet lack strong correlation to actual performance these days.

smhenderson 7y ago

I don't disagree with your opinions on Apple and their products but what in your list of bad things about them is actually illegal? Apple's products are overpriced and underpowered, locked down devices sold as fashion statements or 'lifestyle' accessories that are more like toys for rich people than the miniature computers they're supposed to be. There is nothing illegal about selling rich people toys or dumbing down a device to make it appeal to a certain type of customer. I have never really cared for Apple products in general and also think they are over priced for what you get but for me that just means I don't buy them, I don't really begrudge them making money off a customer base I just don't fit into.

grawprog 7y ago
>I don't disagree with your opinions on Apple and their products but what in your list of bad things about them is actually illegal? Where in the parent's quote that I was responding to was there anything about laws? I was specifically responding to: >Amusingly, there are two sets of people arguing about why Apple is bad, I see nothing about legality. I see the word bad.