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Considering how many electrek.co articles are shared on here about Tesla (and how biased those are), is this really a hill people want to die on? Plus the arti

Considering how many electrek.co articles are shared on here about Tesla (and how biased those are), is this really a hill people want to die on? Plus the article is using difficult to dispute numbers (average cost of gas, cost of electricity Tesla charges, and cost of both vehicle). So I guess when you run out of answers to the critique, just critique the messenger themselves instead, that way you never really have to address the point made.

fhood 7y ago
I bought my 2003 mazda for 2300. Lets see how many years will it take for a Model 3's fuel savings to make up that...oh never. It will never happen. Nobody on this website needs to be told this, and this article is just another battleground in a completely pointless debate between tesla lovers and haters. It is stupid and it demeans hacker news. So do electrek.co articles, although their average quality does appear to be significantly higher than this site.
- Someone1234 7y ago
  The article is comparing two new cars and their relative fuels and costs over a lifetime. Their analogy is a lot more apt than contrasting a new Tesla with a 2003 used vehicle. I don't think a contrived analogy nobody was making is a good argument for why the article's comparison shouldn't be made or discussed. As to electrek, I strongly disagree their quality is "significantly higher." It isn't a good quality publication and is heavily biased.
- dublin 7y ago
  Yeah, I can buy a couple year-old Hellcat (or Porsche, if you're the Euroweenie type) for less, it will hold its value far better than the Tesla, and it naturally increases testosterone, too... (See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=962046 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=962046 ) I'm pretty sure no Tesla is cheaper to own over the long haul than a Ferrari - I owned one for 25 years, and it's actually one of the cheapest-to-own cars I've ever had (worth more when sold than when bought!), despite the fact that it got 12 MPG no matter how you drove it.
elcano 7y ago
"...difficult to dispute numbers..." This article compares car and fuel cost, but leaves out periodic maintenance costs. How many oil changes or timing belt does a Tesla have to do in a lifetime? How many did he include in the analysis? Look, I like Toyota Hybrid technology. I had a Prius. But I can see when you leave out information that could potentially hurt your thesis. I don't know the maintenance costs of the Tesla vs the Toyota. But this certainly looks fishy to me. I wouldn't place my hands on fire for this guy as you do.

fhood 7y ago

I bought my 2003 mazda for 2300. Lets see how many years will it take for a Model 3's fuel savings to make up that...oh never. It will never happen. Nobody on this website needs to be told this, and this article is just another battleground in a completely pointless debate between tesla lovers and haters. It is stupid and it demeans hacker news. So do electrek.co articles, although their average quality does appear to be significantly higher than this site.

Someone1234 7y ago
The article is comparing two new cars and their relative fuels and costs over a lifetime. Their analogy is a lot more apt than contrasting a new Tesla with a 2003 used vehicle. I don't think a contrived analogy nobody was making is a good argument for why the article's comparison shouldn't be made or discussed. As to electrek, I strongly disagree their quality is "significantly higher." It isn't a good quality publication and is heavily biased.
dublin 7y ago
Yeah, I can buy a couple year-old Hellcat (or Porsche, if you're the Euroweenie type) for less, it will hold its value far better than the Tesla, and it naturally increases testosterone, too... (See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=962046 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=962046 ) I'm pretty sure no Tesla is cheaper to own over the long haul than a Ferrari - I owned one for 25 years, and it's actually one of the cheapest-to-own cars I've ever had (worth more when sold than when bought!), despite the fact that it got 12 MPG no matter how you drove it.

elcano 7y ago

"...difficult to dispute numbers..." This article compares car and fuel cost, but leaves out periodic maintenance costs. How many oil changes or timing belt does a Tesla have to do in a lifetime? How many did he include in the analysis? Look, I like Toyota Hybrid technology. I had a Prius. But I can see when you leave out information that could potentially hurt your thesis. I don't know the maintenance costs of the Tesla vs the Toyota. But this certainly looks fishy to me. I wouldn't place my hands on fire for this guy as you do.