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He specifically addresses that point when he says most people live in apartments without dedicated superchargers. I'm not sure how accurate that statement is bu

He specifically addresses that point when he says most people live in apartments without dedicated superchargers. I'm not sure how accurate that statement is but it makes sense to me. I haven't seen very many apartment buildings with electric chargers in my area, if any.

azernik 7y ago
This is a ridiculous assumption. In the US, 63% of units (including rental units) include a garage or carport, and the majority of Americans live in a detached unit. That's an environmental problem of its own, but reduces the friction associated with this kind of last-meter infrastructure. EDIT: regarding apartment buildings, in California, if a lease includes a parking spot the landlord is legally required to allow the tenant to install a car charging station at their spot.
- egdod 7y ago
  Garage, fine. How many car ports have electrical power?
  - azernik 7y ago
    Very often, usually for lighting.
    - linsomniac 7y ago
      ... and garage door openers. :-)
      - azernik 7y ago
        A carport by definition doesn't have a door - it's a zero- to three-wall structure, usually adjacent to a house, that protects a car from rain and snow, but that's it. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carport https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carport
        linsomniac 7y ago
        Agreed, I misread the parent. :-)
JshWright 7y ago
Why are we talking about "most people" instead of "most car owners" (since the car ownership rate for urban apartment dwellers is much lower than that of suburban home owners). Seems like the author is just trying to justify a tenuous assumption.
jsight 7y ago
Technically he says a large #, not most. But I think its still a problem with the article, as what is a "large #"? And even within that subset, there are interesting variations. Some of the local apartments have "free" charging as part of the lease with quite a few charging locations available. If I were planning an electric car purchase and needed an apartment, it'd be pretty easy for me to self-select one of those, even though they are the minority right now.

azernik 7y ago

This is a ridiculous assumption. In the US, 63% of units (including rental units) include a garage or carport, and the majority of Americans live in a detached unit. That's an environmental problem of its own, but reduces the friction associated with this kind of last-meter infrastructure. EDIT: regarding apartment buildings, in California, if a lease includes a parking spot the landlord is legally required to allow the tenant to install a car charging station at their spot.

egdod 7y ago
Garage, fine. How many car ports have electrical power?
- azernik 7y ago
  Very often, usually for lighting.
  - linsomniac 7y ago
    ... and garage door openers. :-)
    - azernik 7y ago
      A carport by definition doesn't have a door - it's a zero- to three-wall structure, usually adjacent to a house, that protects a car from rain and snow, but that's it. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carport https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carport
      - linsomniac 7y ago
        Agreed, I misread the parent. :-)

JshWright 7y ago

Why are we talking about "most people" instead of "most car owners" (since the car ownership rate for urban apartment dwellers is much lower than that of suburban home owners). Seems like the author is just trying to justify a tenuous assumption.

jsight 7y ago

Technically he says a large #, not most. But I think its still a problem with the article, as what is a "large #"? And even within that subset, there are interesting variations. Some of the local apartments have "free" charging as part of the lease with quite a few charging locations available. If I were planning an electric car purchase and needed an apartment, it'd be pretty easy for me to self-select one of those, even though they are the minority right now.