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> I realized at one point that it was probably EMP-proof The ignition coil will probably not survive an EMP event, so the bike will not run. However, it shoul
by LeonM 7y ago
> I realized at one point that it was probably EMP-proof
The ignition coil will probably not survive an EMP event, so the bike will not run.
However, it should be pretty straight forward to wind a new ignition coil if you ever find yourself in a post-nuclear situation.
- mywittyname 7y agoThat bike is way too old for ignition coils, it almost certainly has a distributor, which could be mechanically rotated.
- aivisol 7y agoOne cylinder engine has no distributor, but AFAIK coil is still needed. Where do you get high voltage for ignition from?
- jpindar 7y agoFrom a magneto, but AFAIK those were obsolete well before the seventies.
- Ididntdothis 7y agoI hope I am not confusing things but as far as I know there is still a coil if you have a distributor.
- LeonM 7y agoYes, you still need an ignition source. The OP is confusing the distributor with individual coils found on modern engines. A distributor is only there to distribute the spark to the cylinders. On modern engines the distributor has been replaced by individual coils (on per cylinder).
- jpindar 7y agoWell, sometimes one coil for each pair of cylinders. I'm not aware of any motorcycle that had a distributor though.
- Ididntdothis 7y agoWhat determines the ignition timing without distributor?
- Gracana 7y agoYou can move the points just like you'd rotate a distributor. One set of points drives one coil which provides ignition for two cylinders, one which is firing (near the end of its compression stroke) and the other non-firing (near the end of its exhaust stroke). For a four-cylinder engine, two sets of points and two ignition coils are used. This setup is even used on modern-ish vehicles, where two transistors drive two coils to run four cylinders.
- Ididntdothis 7y agoSorry. What do you mean with points? On my old car the distributor also had a vacuum line that would adjust ignition depending on revs.
- Gracana 7y agoIf your car has points-based ignition, you'll find them in your distributor underneath the rotor. They're switch contact points or breaker points or whatever you want to call them, that are driven by a cam on the distributor shaft. They're closed most of the time, allowing current to pass through the primary side of the ignition coil. When they open, the ignition coil field collapses and you get spark out of the secondary side. Unless your car is very old, chances are that you have a more reliable reluctor-based ignition, where instead of points you have a magnetic pickup that's triggered by a toothed wheel on the distributor shaft. That pickup drives an ignitor (which may also be inside the distributor, or it might be a separate module) which generates the high current input to the ignition coil primary. You can twist the distributor to change your base timing, plus you have the vacuum mechanism that moves the points or magnetic pickup to adjust timing according to manifold vacuum, and it probably also has sprung weights that swing out as rpm increases, which moves the cam or reluctor wheel to advance timing. The actual distribution part of the distributor consists of the rotor and terminals on the cap. That's what routes high voltage from the coil out to each spark plug. On an old motorcycle, you just have the points (one set for each coil for each pair of cylinders as described above) without the distributor cap and rotor part. You can move the points around the cam to adjust base timing, and you might have springs and weights to advance timing as rpm increases. I don't think vacuum advance was nearly as common on bikes as it was on cars.
- jpindar 7y agoThat is false, ignition coils go back to... before the sixties at least, when magnetos were used. And no bike that I know of ever had a distributor.
- magduf 7y agoEvery motorcycle has to have a distributor, unless it's either so new that it has coil-on-plug like modern cars, or it's so old it uses magnetos, or it's a single-cylinder engine.
- jpindar 7y agoThat's not true. As far back as the sixties at least, both Harleys, Triumphs and Japanese motorcycles had either one coil for each cylinder or one coil (with two plug wires) for every two cylinders. They weren't mounted on the plugs, but up under the gas tank or under the seat. The plug wires go directly from a coil to a spark plug, so there is no distributor. The purpose of a distributor on a car was to distribute the output of one coil to several spark plugs. When you have a separate coil output for each plug, there's no need to distribute anything.
- aivisol 7y agoIt can probably survive. It is just a coil, and a capacitor across the contacts. Diode rectifier in the alternator might be the weakest point.
- falcolas 7y agoIt could be a magneto as well, which is more finicky to tune, but still mechanically simple and robust.