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I had a diesel car that I once drove with no alternator and no battery: started off a jump and drove to the auto parts store. Radio, windows, and lights were de

I had a diesel car that I once drove with no alternator and no battery: started off a jump and drove to the auto parts store. Radio, windows, and lights were dead, but the car drove fine.

overcast 7y ago
That's how diesel works, off its own compression.
- deaps 7y ago
  Yeah - I remember when I was a volunteer firefighter - if you parked a fire truck in an atmosphere that was filled with combustible gasses, the engine would not shut off. The trucks were equipped with some type of an emergency throw should that situation ever arise. We never had to use it in my time there.
  - tyho 7y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_engine_runaway https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_engine_runaway
  - i_am_proteus 7y ago
    Discharging a CO2 bottle into the air intake is the usual ticket.
- ken 7y ago
  Diesels don't require spark, but modern diesels use electronics for fuel injection, fuel pump, drive-by-wire throttle, engine monitoring, and so on. Since at least the ~2000 era, a VW diesel will run with no alternator (for a while) but not without a battery.
jhoechtl 7y ago
Fond memories of my Merceded W124. You could rip the engine out of the car and it would go on and on. No electricity for motor management required whatsoever.
- rrdharan 7y ago
  I think you meant "rip the battery out"?
  - antsar 7y ago
    Either one works, as long as you're going downhill.
  - jhoechtl 7y ago
    What I meant was the pure engine without any additional managment once running was able to sustain itself. It's one of the last types of Mercedes which were meant to go through WWIII and back.
aivisol 7y ago
I still own a MB with OM616 [1] engine. It does not need an alternator when it runs. Even to turn fuel supply on/off it uses mechanical valve which is on the dashboard. It turns 40 this year but it starts in a split second even in cold winter. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_OM616_engine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_OM616_engine
Jamwinner 7y ago
Diesel ignights via compression and does not require external ignition. For this reason, they can 'run away' and rev until they explode if somehow given too much fuel as the result of a failed injector or oil leak from the turbo that feeds the combustion cycle. The yt videos are intense.

I had a diesel car that I once drove with no alternator and no battery: started off a jump and drove to the auto parts store. Radio, windows, and lights were dead, but the car drove fine.

overcast 7y ago

That's how diesel works, off its own compression.

deaps 7y ago
Yeah - I remember when I was a volunteer firefighter - if you parked a fire truck in an atmosphere that was filled with combustible gasses, the engine would not shut off. The trucks were equipped with some type of an emergency throw should that situation ever arise. We never had to use it in my time there.
- tyho 7y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_engine_runaway https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_engine_runaway
- i_am_proteus 7y ago
  Discharging a CO2 bottle into the air intake is the usual ticket.
ken 7y ago
Diesels don't require spark, but modern diesels use electronics for fuel injection, fuel pump, drive-by-wire throttle, engine monitoring, and so on. Since at least the ~2000 era, a VW diesel will run with no alternator (for a while) but not without a battery.

jhoechtl 7y ago

Fond memories of my Merceded W124. You could rip the engine out of the car and it would go on and on. No electricity for motor management required whatsoever.

rrdharan 7y ago
I think you meant "rip the battery out"?
- antsar 7y ago
  Either one works, as long as you're going downhill.
- jhoechtl 7y ago
  What I meant was the pure engine without any additional managment once running was able to sustain itself. It's one of the last types of Mercedes which were meant to go through WWIII and back.

aivisol 7y ago

I still own a MB with OM616 [1] engine. It does not need an alternator when it runs. Even to turn fuel supply on/off it uses mechanical valve which is on the dashboard. It turns 40 this year but it starts in a split second even in cold winter. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_OM616_engine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_OM616_engine

Jamwinner 7y ago

Diesel ignights via compression and does not require external ignition. For this reason, they can 'run away' and rev until they explode if somehow given too much fuel as the result of a failed injector or oil leak from the turbo that feeds the combustion cycle. The yt videos are intense.