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How could I tell if there's consciousness in that simulated universe, when I can't tell whether other beings in this original universe are conscious?
by TuringTest 7y ago
How could I tell if there's consciousness in that simulated universe, when I can't tell whether other beings in this original universe are conscious?
- state_less 7y agoIf you replicate the universe, then the properties would hold from the reference and simulation. It shouldn't matter if we use information vs. whatever the reference implementation is using. We do this sort of thing when we simulate known systems, like a computer running in software. So if there is conscious beings in the universe, it'll be in the simulation. You hold that you're conscious, so then I'd hope you'd agree the simulation has at least one conscious being in it. I don't know why some folks consciousness test only seems to work for themselves. I've been convinced by the simple argument by induction: I am an example of an animal. I have consciousness, so others likely do too.
- TuringTest 7y agoInduction is not proof :-) I'm also convinced, but primarily by Turing's argument ad politeness: "Instead of arguing continually over this point it is usual to have the polite convention that everyone thinks".[1] I haven't really found a compelling rational argument to fully reject solipsism. Though I agree that looking for yourself in a perfect simulation is a clever hack. :-) [1] https://books.google.com/books?id=7pFHBAAAQBAJ&lpg=PT51&ots=rCScTqp0va&dq=turing%20conscious%20politeness&pg=PT51#v=onepage&q=turing%20conscious%20politeness&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=7pFHBAAAQBAJ&lpg=PT51&ots=...