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> IMO its worth a serious look from biochemistry point of view. I'm not a scientist, and certainly not a quantum physicist. But from what I understand, the mai

by cr0sh 7y ago

> IMO its worth a serious look from biochemistry point of view. I'm not a scientist, and certainly not a quantum physicist. But from what I understand, the main argument against this idea (that is, quantum effects within neurons - or some other biological quantum effect system) is the fact that as far as we know, such quantum effects cannot occur at any temperature near "average human body temperature". If such could be demonstrated, it would upend a massive amount of knowledge in and around QM/QP. But then again, dual-slit experiment? Maybe something is there? Again - far outside my understanding and knowledge, and likely is completely wrong, etc. It might make a good science-fiction plot for a novel or something, though...

DesiLurker 7y ago
>> as far as we know, such quantum effects cannot occur at any temperature thats the too warm wet & noisy argument generally made. AFAIK it has been demonstrated that energy transfer in leaves for photosynthesis depends on quantum effects, so does sense of smell & direction in certain birds IIRC. there is a section on the wikipedia page for this that addresses this with ref links: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchestrated_objective_reduction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchestrated_objective_reducti... my point is rather simple, IF there is any evolutionary advantage to quantum processes in brain AND these quantum effects are available to ANY exploitable degree then evolution will favor selection of those mechanisms until they become pervasive and lose advantage. so its not really surprising that once the consciousness is aware enough to self reflect, the pace of technological development accelerated exponentially. I do agree that it sounds like new-age BS but that will always be the case, religion with always try to hijack the scientific development but that should not be a deterrent to a lot more research conducted on this really fascinating field.

by cr0sh 7y ago

DesiLurker 7y ago

>> as far as we know, such quantum effects cannot occur at any temperature thats the too warm wet & noisy argument generally made. AFAIK it has been demonstrated that energy transfer in leaves for photosynthesis depends on quantum effects, so does sense of smell & direction in certain birds IIRC. there is a section on the wikipedia page for this that addresses this with ref links: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchestrated_objective_reduction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchestrated_objective_reducti... my point is rather simple, IF there is any evolutionary advantage to quantum processes in brain AND these quantum effects are available to ANY exploitable degree then evolution will favor selection of those mechanisms until they become pervasive and lose advantage. so its not really surprising that once the consciousness is aware enough to self reflect, the pace of technological development accelerated exponentially. I do agree that it sounds like new-age BS but that will always be the case, religion with always try to hijack the scientific development but that should not be a deterrent to a lot more research conducted on this really fascinating field.