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The Soviets were kicked out by the Taliban. How could a democracy be started with them? How can you make the Iraqi fractions live together if there is oil money
by toohotatopic 7y ago
The Soviets were kicked out by the Taliban. How could a democracy be started with them? How can you make the Iraqi fractions live together if there is oil money to be distributed? How do you conquer Russia if they have nuclear weapons and still plenty of tanks?
- danans 7y ago> The Soviets were kicked out by the Taliban The Taliban got their weapons and training from the US, all funded by the Saudis, orchestrated by a congressman [1] and oil heiress from Texas. The history is well known at this point. > How could a democracy be started with them? Democracy was probably never a goal in the effort, certainly not for the Saudis, and not for the Taliban or the US either. Weakening the USSR through bloodshed and drain of resources. 1. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Wilson_(Texas_politician) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Wilson_(Texas_politi...
- toohotatopic 7y agoSo Afghanistan was a victory and not a loss.
- pintxo 7y agoShort term yes, but long term?
- danans 7y agoThe Afghan war waged by the mujahideen (whose Pashto faction became the Taliban) against the USSR, funded by the Saudis, with arms supplied by the US was definitely a victory: The USSR retreated and Afghanistan became a theocratic state. If you mean a victory for democracy or human rights, then definitely no, but that was never the goal.
- dragonwriter 7y ago> The Soviets were kicked out by the Taliban No, they weren't. The Taliban didn't exist until much later, the group that the Soviets were forced out by became the government and then later fragmented into a number of different factions. The Taliban was one of them, but so were many of the factions fighting against the Taliban.