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Craig Wright to Judge: “bonded courier” gave me keys to Satoshi’s 1M+ bitcoins

14 points by tempsy 7y ago

stale2002 7y ago
You need to be very very careful, when parsing things that Craig says. His statement is implying that he is getting access to the "private keys" which would allow him to actually have control over the 1M fortunate. But, if you look at what he is actually saying, he is actually only claiming that he is getting access to the "public keys", which is just a list of his supposed holdings. It is a very weasely way to imply something, and then when people ask to back up your statement with proof, he will go back and say "umm, actually it was this different thing, and I can't show you proof because private keys are not the same as public keys!". You should expect another excuse soon, as for why he actually can't move his coins.
- tempsy 7y ago
  It’s not clear what this encrypted document contains. I agree that nothing matters until he actually signs some message or moves some bitcoin to prove he owns it. Either way BSV has quadrupled in four days, so there are certainly people who are heavily betting something will come of this.
- lozaning 7y ago
  Dude's a real jackass for sure. Either sign any kind of transaction to the chain using Satoshi's private key or GTFO.
WalterBright 7y ago
My money is on Hal Finney being Satoshi.
- misiti3780 7y ago
  Part of me thinks that too, but if he was, why didnt he just admit it on his death bed?
  - deleted 7y ago
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  - neonate 7y ago
    His mind might have been on other things. He might have intended to, but in the end not had the chance. He might have been worrying about his family.
  - echelon 7y ago
    Or liquidate all his holdings?
    - deleted 7y ago
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  - WalterBright 7y ago
    I read that he selected euthanization in the circumstance when he could no longer able to communicate, and that came about. Hal was one of those off-the-charts smart people, and was kind and well-liked by everyone. He also liked to prank people, and the Satoshi prank is just the kind of thing he'd do. He was interviewed a few months before his death where he was asked if he was Satoshi, and he just smiled.
    - blotter_paper 7y ago
      > He was interviewed a few months before his death where he was asked if he was Satoshi, and he just smiled. Sauce? I found an article from a few months before his death where he glances down (indicating a "no") when asked if he was involved in the creation of Bitcoin. He involuntarily smiles (but also glances down) when asked if he has any connection to Dorian Nakamoto. https://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2014/03/25/satoshi-nakamotos-neighbor-the-bitcoin-ghostwriter-who-wasnt/amp/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2014/03/25/satosh...
      - WalterBright 7y ago
        That's it. Thanks for finding it.
- real_satoshi 7y ago
  How big of a bet?
  - WalterBright 7y ago
    My standard bet is the price of a beer.
blotter_paper 7y ago
Wright has forged signatures to prove his Satoshiness. Maybe Kleiman was Satoshi, that could explain how Wright had knowledge that supposedly fooled Andresen, but Wright is clearly a scammer of some sort. My money is on this whole charade being a pump-n-dump scheme for Bitcoin SV.
- jki275 7y ago
  This is the most logical conclusion, though why BSV is moving based on this makes little sense. There was a post yesterday that I saw that suggested this is some kind of long con to try to get a court order to actually fork the BTC blockchain to give him access to Satoshi's coins -- absurd concept really, but not out of the realm of what this guy would think he could do.
panarky 7y ago
If Wright's long history of deception wasn't enough evidence that this is bunk, the term "bonded courier" should be a clue. It's conspicuously ostentatious and fake-official. When you think about it, why would data need to be delivered by a dude in a rented uniform?
me_me_me 7y ago
Why on earth are people talking about this guy, is is a proven fraudster. He is lying for living and everybody knows it, yet somehow he is still talked about. Is there some king of pattern in bs artists staying popular despite reality?
- nextweek2 7y ago
  > Is there some king of pattern in bs artists staying popular despite reality? Plenty of people want to see him get his comeuppance in court. It would be nice if the courts decided to punish his perjury.

14 points by tempsy 7y ago

stale2002 7y ago

You need to be very very careful, when parsing things that Craig says. His statement is implying that he is getting access to the "private keys" which would allow him to actually have control over the 1M fortunate. But, if you look at what he is actually saying, he is actually only claiming that he is getting access to the "public keys", which is just a list of his supposed holdings. It is a very weasely way to imply something, and then when people ask to back up your statement with proof, he will go back and say "umm, actually it was this different thing, and I can't show you proof because private keys are not the same as public keys!". You should expect another excuse soon, as for why he actually can't move his coins.

tempsy 7y ago
It’s not clear what this encrypted document contains. I agree that nothing matters until he actually signs some message or moves some bitcoin to prove he owns it. Either way BSV has quadrupled in four days, so there are certainly people who are heavily betting something will come of this.
lozaning 7y ago
Dude's a real jackass for sure. Either sign any kind of transaction to the chain using Satoshi's private key or GTFO.

WalterBright 7y ago

My money is on Hal Finney being Satoshi.

misiti3780 7y ago
Part of me thinks that too, but if he was, why didnt he just admit it on his death bed?
- deleted 7y ago
  [deleted]
- neonate 7y ago
  His mind might have been on other things. He might have intended to, but in the end not had the chance. He might have been worrying about his family.
- echelon 7y ago
  Or liquidate all his holdings?
  - deleted 7y ago
    [deleted]
- WalterBright 7y ago
  I read that he selected euthanization in the circumstance when he could no longer able to communicate, and that came about. Hal was one of those off-the-charts smart people, and was kind and well-liked by everyone. He also liked to prank people, and the Satoshi prank is just the kind of thing he'd do. He was interviewed a few months before his death where he was asked if he was Satoshi, and he just smiled.
  - blotter_paper 7y ago
    > He was interviewed a few months before his death where he was asked if he was Satoshi, and he just smiled. Sauce? I found an article from a few months before his death where he glances down (indicating a "no") when asked if he was involved in the creation of Bitcoin. He involuntarily smiles (but also glances down) when asked if he has any connection to Dorian Nakamoto. https://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2014/03/25/satoshi-nakamotos-neighbor-the-bitcoin-ghostwriter-who-wasnt/amp/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2014/03/25/satosh...
    - WalterBright 7y ago
      That's it. Thanks for finding it.
real_satoshi 7y ago
How big of a bet?
- WalterBright 7y ago
  My standard bet is the price of a beer.

blotter_paper 7y ago

Wright has forged signatures to prove his Satoshiness. Maybe Kleiman was Satoshi, that could explain how Wright had knowledge that supposedly fooled Andresen, but Wright is clearly a scammer of some sort. My money is on this whole charade being a pump-n-dump scheme for Bitcoin SV.

jki275 7y ago
This is the most logical conclusion, though why BSV is moving based on this makes little sense. There was a post yesterday that I saw that suggested this is some kind of long con to try to get a court order to actually fork the BTC blockchain to give him access to Satoshi's coins -- absurd concept really, but not out of the realm of what this guy would think he could do.

panarky 7y ago

If Wright's long history of deception wasn't enough evidence that this is bunk, the term "bonded courier" should be a clue. It's conspicuously ostentatious and fake-official. When you think about it, why would data need to be delivered by a dude in a rented uniform?

me_me_me 7y ago

Why on earth are people talking about this guy, is is a proven fraudster. He is lying for living and everybody knows it, yet somehow he is still talked about. Is there some king of pattern in bs artists staying popular despite reality?

nextweek2 7y ago
> Is there some king of pattern in bs artists staying popular despite reality? Plenty of people want to see him get his comeuppance in court. It would be nice if the courts decided to punish his perjury.