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> Systems can be made fair or unfair, that is what you must derive from the fact that everything is a system. Or conversely, as the OP suggested systems end up
by reroute1 7y ago
> Systems can be made fair or unfair, that is what you must derive from the fact that everything is a system.
Or conversely, as the OP suggested systems end up that way. Not necessarily designed fairly or unfairly, they can become that way over time.
> It is pure stupidity to accept that all systems are unfair. This is not true and is nearly an obscene belief.
Where did anyone say that all systems are unfair? Where did anyone say you should just accept the way they are? Those do seem stupid and I don't see where anyone posited those ideas.
On the other hand it does seem very useful to understand that unfair systems do exist, how and why they came about. And if you have no control or influence over a system, then you need to accept it. Those are all pretty obvious truths and is what the OP highlighted...
- crimsonalucard 7y agoThis post seems to imply such unfair systems are emergent in nature. Possibly so. But is the system emergent among a group of human beings who are fully aware of the actions they are taking? No. That's like saying global warming is an emergent phenomenon of human society.
- reroute1 7y agoRight, it is emergent among a group of human beings who may or may not be aware of the actions they are taking as is the case with global warming. Although nowadays more and more people are aware of what causes global warming and how they contribute. That also doesn't mean that some people aren't trying to keep the status quo or rig a system. Just that if a system is unfair, that could be something that was not necessarily designed or intended, but happened anyway.
- crimsonalucard 7y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22051363 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22051363