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Where do you believe MS is storing all this tracking data you believe they are taking from every Windows 10 machine on the planet? Doesn't this conspiracy theo

by jki275 7y ago

Where do you believe MS is storing all this tracking data you believe they are taking from every Windows 10 machine on the planet? Doesn't this conspiracy theory stretch belief a great deal?

mrguyorama 7y ago
The NSA has built absolutely fuck off massive datacenters in multiple places in the United States. The parent is suggesting the telemetry from Windows 10 is mostly getting passed off to the NSA
- jki275 7y ago
  That's a nice conspiracy theory, but that doesn't make it any less absurd.
  - ta999999171 7y ago
    ^Willful ignorance. Sorry, but if you've been reading, there's just no other explanation.
  - ta999999171 7y ago
    Props for at least knowing the difference between a conspiracy and a conspiracy theory, though, unlike half of the internet.
  - mtgx 7y ago
    You mean just like the carriers passing the data through their cables to specially made "NSA forts" is absurd? https://theintercept.com/2018/06/25/att-internet-nsa-spy-hubs/ https://theintercept.com/2018/06/25/att-internet-nsa-spy-hub... I actually didn't say that Microsoft is directly passing all the data to NSA, just that the NSA (and FBI, and DEA, and IRS, etc) can request that data on anyone at anytime, and it's half of the time a secret request with a gag order. But now that you mention it, there is a non-zero chance that Microsoft could pass some of the data directly to the US government, too, but maybe just for some services, like Skype. Also "all that telemetry data" is probably counted in tens or hundreds of TBs a year, which is nothing for a company like MS or an agency like the NSA. Telemetry doesn't take that much space, just a few strings for each event. Are you completely unaware of the fact that Microsoft does collect telemetry on every app you open, every file you have on your PC, every search you do (locally), and other stuff like that? Because that's exactly what they're doing -- Bing it, if you will. Do you think they're tracking all that data without actually storing it and analyzing it?

by jki275 7y ago

Where do you believe MS is storing all this tracking data you believe they are taking from every Windows 10 machine on the planet? Doesn't this conspiracy theory stretch belief a great deal?

mrguyorama 7y ago

The NSA has built absolutely fuck off massive datacenters in multiple places in the United States. The parent is suggesting the telemetry from Windows 10 is mostly getting passed off to the NSA

jki275 7y ago
That's a nice conspiracy theory, but that doesn't make it any less absurd.
- ta999999171 7y ago
  ^Willful ignorance. Sorry, but if you've been reading, there's just no other explanation.
- ta999999171 7y ago
  Props for at least knowing the difference between a conspiracy and a conspiracy theory, though, unlike half of the internet.
- mtgx 7y ago
  You mean just like the carriers passing the data through their cables to specially made "NSA forts" is absurd? https://theintercept.com/2018/06/25/att-internet-nsa-spy-hubs/ https://theintercept.com/2018/06/25/att-internet-nsa-spy-hub... I actually didn't say that Microsoft is directly passing all the data to NSA, just that the NSA (and FBI, and DEA, and IRS, etc) can request that data on anyone at anytime, and it's half of the time a secret request with a gag order. But now that you mention it, there is a non-zero chance that Microsoft could pass some of the data directly to the US government, too, but maybe just for some services, like Skype. Also "all that telemetry data" is probably counted in tens or hundreds of TBs a year, which is nothing for a company like MS or an agency like the NSA. Telemetry doesn't take that much space, just a few strings for each event. Are you completely unaware of the fact that Microsoft does collect telemetry on every app you open, every file you have on your PC, every search you do (locally), and other stuff like that? Because that's exactly what they're doing -- Bing it, if you will. Do you think they're tracking all that data without actually storing it and analyzing it?