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This in conjunction with 5G would make surveillance complete. I wouldn't be surprised if 5G got some free channel/band used specifically for "telemetry" from al

by bitL 7y ago

This in conjunction with 5G would make surveillance complete. I wouldn't be surprised if 5G got some free channel/band used specifically for "telemetry" from all 5G-capable devices around, transferring real-time audio etc.

nyolfen 7y ago
there is nothing special about 5g vs current solutions. it’s just faster and supports more clients per station with worse range.
- bitL 7y ago
  It's just there is too much bandwidth there and some could be repurposed for "telemetry". Many things can be derived from parallel audio/video/IMU streams from multiple phones/devices around a certain spot of interest. Storing them for e.g. a month, automatically analyzing streams with Deep Learning, with suspected ones passed over for a human review. 5G could be a testing tech for that due to bandwidth capabilities.
  - nyolfen 7y ago
    sorry, does 5g magically give other people access to all the phone audio in an area?
    - bitL 7y ago
      Nope, but it could be used to R&D a new tech that would make mandatory connections to nearby 5G to some "telemetry" band where all sensory information would go, regardless of whether you like it or not. Similarly to how SMS type 0 is handled by baseband processor in every single cell phone already - you don't even know you received/sent hundreds of those. It's not like there isn't some precedent already most people don't know about...
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      - nyolfen 7y ago
        yes, and i guess they could r&d a 5g standard that streams 4k video from your phone to the nsa at all times on a particular band. the standards bodies would still have to agree to it and consumers would have to want to buy it. i will reserve my concerns for things that actually happen.
        bitL 7y ago
        Car manufacturers are already in talks with telcos to get dedicated 10MB/s links to transmit all the telemetry, including visual data. Once such infrastructures are in place and standardized in one domain, it doesn't make much effort to move them to other, "unthinkable" domains.

by bitL 7y ago

nyolfen 7y ago

there is nothing special about 5g vs current solutions. it’s just faster and supports more clients per station with worse range.

bitL 7y ago
It's just there is too much bandwidth there and some could be repurposed for "telemetry". Many things can be derived from parallel audio/video/IMU streams from multiple phones/devices around a certain spot of interest. Storing them for e.g. a month, automatically analyzing streams with Deep Learning, with suspected ones passed over for a human review. 5G could be a testing tech for that due to bandwidth capabilities.
- nyolfen 7y ago
  sorry, does 5g magically give other people access to all the phone audio in an area?
  - bitL 7y ago
    Nope, but it could be used to R&D a new tech that would make mandatory connections to nearby 5G to some "telemetry" band where all sensory information would go, regardless of whether you like it or not. Similarly to how SMS type 0 is handled by baseband processor in every single cell phone already - you don't even know you received/sent hundreds of those. It's not like there isn't some precedent already most people don't know about...
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    - nyolfen 7y ago
      yes, and i guess they could r&d a 5g standard that streams 4k video from your phone to the nsa at all times on a particular band. the standards bodies would still have to agree to it and consumers would have to want to buy it. i will reserve my concerns for things that actually happen.
      - bitL 7y ago
        Car manufacturers are already in talks with telcos to get dedicated 10MB/s links to transmit all the telemetry, including visual data. Once such infrastructures are in place and standardized in one domain, it doesn't make much effort to move them to other, "unthinkable" domains.