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In answer to your edit, probably downvoted because your post seems to have no point, other than to say "this is nonsense". Also, at a glance it sounds like the

In answer to your edit, probably downvoted because your post seems to have no point, other than to say "this is nonsense". Also, at a glance it sounds like the prelude to a homeopathy advert - doctors aren't listening to our bodies, they should be more in tune with their [insert pseudoscience rubbish here]. And given the narrow focus of the original post (talking about bias in economic trade-offs) fairly off-topic. Also: honors the pledge: First, do no harm. Alas, in many places that pledge (and various variants) while studied, and not imposed upon students as an oath - other than through medical malpractice legislation how to better support the body's "inherent healing properties" That's almost exactly what most drugs are designed to do. Vaccines don't kill maladies, just hint at your body to prep for a siege. Painkillers don't kill pain, just hint at your body to ignore it. Antibiotics are an exception to this I believe (though happy to be corrected). So I'm pretty sure the majority of drug research is exactly what you've said that more doctors should do.

DoreenMichele 7y ago
Thank you for the feedback.
AstralStorm 7y ago
Painkillers do kill pain, but pain itself is rarely a problem. And as there are different kinds and causes of pain, as many types of painkillers exist. Pain is only a symptom, but better quality of life is often worth the side effects. Likewise antiinflammatories, though sometimes inflammation itself is one - mostly autoimmune or to reduce damage when other treatment is curative. Most drugs are in fact designed to work on their own, but are insufficient due to their laser focus, this the rest of body's mechanisms are required. Or they are directly messing with the chemistry doing either exactly as they should or otherwise known side effects due to relatively simple causation. The about only place where it does not apply is carcinogenic or teratogenic effects. Probably the only place where those remarks about "working with the body" apply is where we know next to nothing, such as psychiatry and very deep metabolic changes such as obesity. Careful with analogies and broad generalizations.
- undecisive 7y ago
  Painkillers do kill pain, but pain itself is rarely a problem. And as there are different kinds and causes of pain, as many types of painkillers exist. Pain is only a symptom, but better quality of life is often worth the side effects. As much as I appreciate a technical debate (and before I fall off Mount Stupid [1]) I feel like maybe we're approaching a non-question at different ends. Questions like "What is Pain?" "What does it mean to 'kill' pain?" "What constitutes working with the body?" and "If a head is cleaved in the forest, does it make a noise?" are all questions I'd love to spend hours debating, but the answers to these probably have little bearing on my original point. The only reason I piped up is that I know how crappy it is to be downvoted with no explanation, because what you said sounded perfectly reasonable in your own head. Apologies if I accidentally promulgated a misinformation bugbear! I will be more careful with my analgesics and my broad general anaesthetics ;) [1] https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mount%20stupid https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mount%20stup...

DoreenMichele 7y ago

Thank you for the feedback.

AstralStorm 7y ago

Painkillers do kill pain, but pain itself is rarely a problem. And as there are different kinds and causes of pain, as many types of painkillers exist. Pain is only a symptom, but better quality of life is often worth the side effects. Likewise antiinflammatories, though sometimes inflammation itself is one - mostly autoimmune or to reduce damage when other treatment is curative. Most drugs are in fact designed to work on their own, but are insufficient due to their laser focus, this the rest of body's mechanisms are required. Or they are directly messing with the chemistry doing either exactly as they should or otherwise known side effects due to relatively simple causation. The about only place where it does not apply is carcinogenic or teratogenic effects. Probably the only place where those remarks about "working with the body" apply is where we know next to nothing, such as psychiatry and very deep metabolic changes such as obesity. Careful with analogies and broad generalizations.

undecisive 7y ago
Painkillers do kill pain, but pain itself is rarely a problem. And as there are different kinds and causes of pain, as many types of painkillers exist. Pain is only a symptom, but better quality of life is often worth the side effects. As much as I appreciate a technical debate (and before I fall off Mount Stupid [1]) I feel like maybe we're approaching a non-question at different ends. Questions like "What is Pain?" "What does it mean to 'kill' pain?" "What constitutes working with the body?" and "If a head is cleaved in the forest, does it make a noise?" are all questions I'd love to spend hours debating, but the answers to these probably have little bearing on my original point. The only reason I piped up is that I know how crappy it is to be downvoted with no explanation, because what you said sounded perfectly reasonable in your own head. Apologies if I accidentally promulgated a misinformation bugbear! I will be more careful with my analgesics and my broad general anaesthetics ;) [1] https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mount%20stupid https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mount%20stup...