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This is what would now be termed a "blackpill".

by webew 7y ago

fxtentacle 7y ago
No, I didn't mean things in that sort of "nothing you can do about the sad truth" way. Instead, I consider this actionable advice. - Spend time hanging out with other guys talking about shared hobbies - When you like your results, make sure people can see your enthusiasm - Help people look good in front of their peers and they will buy - As a contractor, do what the customer wants, not what you like best - Before you spend the time to build something, research that your intended customer can and will buy it - Don't worry if people complain about your stuff. They always do, even if they get rich by using your tools. BTW, googling for Blackpill sure yields odd results: "What Is The Black Pill? A Closer Look Inside The New Red Pill" followed by 2 huge advertisements: "10x your attractiveness to women - Click Here" "Accidental discovery reveals the exact body type women want - Click Here" followed by a full-width picture of 10 naked models barely covered with what looks like a furry blanket.
- Drakar1903 7y ago
  I think it's an expansion on Matrix's blue pill red pill analogy, except black seems an even more forceful and grim color than red.
- jimmytucson 7y ago
  Stating it that way really brings it full circle. These sound reasonable, but may run counter your first intuition. Thanks!
dmos62 7y ago
What's a blackpill? Is this a twist on the Matrix's shtick with red and blue pills, but with a black one, signifying that this truth is somehow morbose or dark?
- muzani 7y ago
  Redpill was a community of 'involuntary celibates', who were bad with women, and reacted to it with women hate, claiming that they were woke and saw women as manipulative. It took off, had a strong number of supporters. Blackpill is a derogatory term for a similar pattern - people who are bad at something and respond by being 'woke' and dismissive. I suppose the classic English term is "sour grapes".
  - have_faith 7y ago
    Redpill is a much older concept than recent incel usage. It has been around online as idea of revealing the true nature of something for a long time.
    - deleted 7y ago
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    - muzani 7y ago
      Yes, but a quick internet search will highlight only the incel community. Much like how "meme" has evolved in meaning.
      - ScottFree 7y ago
        A quick internet search will show you lots of dumb and incorrect things. It's a bad idea to define concepts based on what a quick internet search shows you.
    - egypturnash 7y ago
      Before "incels" it was mostly a term used by angry 4channers and MRAs, which is pretty much the same demographic as the average incel.
- BlueTemplar 7y ago
  It's what Schwarzenegger does when being offered a red pill in Total Recall (1990) : put a bullet in the guy's head. (The bullet being the "black pill".) :P (P.S.: Yes, I know that it is not what it means...)
- bitL 7y ago
  It's the overall uselessness of life, being lied to about rules of society while brutal, cruel natural law is in effect, like people getting ahead by lying, bullying, kissing up, schmoozing, murdering, having sex with etc. and one's competence doesn't matter at all, unless it's for increase in work/punishment. It leads to nihilism, suicides and murders as "nothing really matters" and is quite common in 50+ and lower-strata society folks "that have seen it all". From a quick research: Blue pill - believe what society says, have okaysh life and ordinary dreams driven by collective narrative, zeitgeist, then burn to the ground later when somebody catches you off-guard and takes advantage of you Red pill - be a selfish bastard you are supposed to be, use other blue pill people because they allow you to, argue using other people is what they truly want (mainly related to women, i.e. assuming women are attracted to emotionless men that are using them then throwing them away once no longer attractive), have a firm and rational grip with actual technical aspects of reality around you with good behavior prediction rate, often practicing stoicism/Zen Buddhism Purple pill - mix of blue and red pill, having some societally-injected ideals while adhering to solipsistic consequentialism in using other people, but still being driven by societal rewards and the need of approval by others Black pill - nothing matters, you or other people could be already dead, it won't change a thing, universe is random/pointless or created by an evil demiurge in order to torture conscious beings; whatever you do, whether good or evil, is pointless; people use each other all the time, given large enough reward there is no moral rule that couldn't be bent, there is no point in generosity and ideals, just in interests, and they are pointless anyway White pill - universe was created for a reason that is good and everybody wants to get into a meaningful state/end, assuming overcoming obstacles by practicing virtues is necessary in order to reach some noble goal, likely maximizing utility/happiness of everybody, often associated with religion Honestly, I am not sure how one could fight either of those pills as all historical civilizations had their own share of unrealistic myths and there were always groups of people seeing through their facade and taking advantage of better information, validating many of these perspectives and making them common meta-strategies of life.
  - burntoutfire 7y ago
    > and one's competence doesn't matter at all This is, thankfully, not true. The truth is that you need to have some baseline level of competency to survive in corporate world. Sometimes it's quite low (for scrum masters, business analysts etc.), but still, these people know a lot more about software than say random person from the street outside the building. The sad part is that, beyond this baseline level of competency, further competency does not help nearly as much as the being good at company politics.
- Psyladine 7y ago
  Disenchantment. The adult version of finding out life isn't fair, santa isn't real, and no-one really cares about your problems. Real talk it's more like narcissistic injury.

This is what would now be termed a "blackpill".

by webew 7y ago

This is what would now be termed a "blackpill".

No, I didn't mean things in that sort of "nothing you can do about the sad truth" way. Instead, I consider this actionable advice. - Spend time hanging out with other guys talking about shared hobbies - When you like your results, make sure people can see your enthusiasm - Help people look good in front of their peers and they will buy - As a contractor, do what the customer wants, not what you like best - Before you spend the time to build something, research that your intended customer can and will buy it - Don't worry if people complain about your stuff. They always do, even if they get rich by using your tools. BTW, googling for Blackpill sure yields odd results: "What Is The Black Pill? A Closer Look Inside The New Red Pill" followed by 2 huge advertisements: "10x your attractiveness to women - Click Here" "Accidental discovery reveals the exact body type women want - Click Here" followed by a full-width picture of 10 naked models barely covered with what looks like a furry blanket.

Drakar1903 7y ago
I think it's an expansion on Matrix's blue pill red pill analogy, except black seems an even more forceful and grim color than red.
jimmytucson 7y ago
Stating it that way really brings it full circle. These sound reasonable, but may run counter your first intuition. Thanks!

dmos62 7y ago

What's a blackpill? Is this a twist on the Matrix's shtick with red and blue pills, but with a black one, signifying that this truth is somehow morbose or dark?

muzani 7y ago
Redpill was a community of 'involuntary celibates', who were bad with women, and reacted to it with women hate, claiming that they were woke and saw women as manipulative. It took off, had a strong number of supporters. Blackpill is a derogatory term for a similar pattern - people who are bad at something and respond by being 'woke' and dismissive. I suppose the classic English term is "sour grapes".
- have_faith 7y ago
  Redpill is a much older concept than recent incel usage. It has been around online as idea of revealing the true nature of something for a long time.
  - deleted 7y ago
    [deleted]
  - muzani 7y ago
    Yes, but a quick internet search will highlight only the incel community. Much like how "meme" has evolved in meaning.
    - ScottFree 7y ago
      A quick internet search will show you lots of dumb and incorrect things. It's a bad idea to define concepts based on what a quick internet search shows you.
  - egypturnash 7y ago
    Before "incels" it was mostly a term used by angry 4channers and MRAs, which is pretty much the same demographic as the average incel.
BlueTemplar 7y ago
It's what Schwarzenegger does when being offered a red pill in Total Recall (1990) : put a bullet in the guy's head. (The bullet being the "black pill".) :P (P.S.: Yes, I know that it is not what it means...)
bitL 7y ago
It's the overall uselessness of life, being lied to about rules of society while brutal, cruel natural law is in effect, like people getting ahead by lying, bullying, kissing up, schmoozing, murdering, having sex with etc. and one's competence doesn't matter at all, unless it's for increase in work/punishment. It leads to nihilism, suicides and murders as "nothing really matters" and is quite common in 50+ and lower-strata society folks "that have seen it all". From a quick research: Blue pill - believe what society says, have okaysh life and ordinary dreams driven by collective narrative, zeitgeist, then burn to the ground later when somebody catches you off-guard and takes advantage of you Red pill - be a selfish bastard you are supposed to be, use other blue pill people because they allow you to, argue using other people is what they truly want (mainly related to women, i.e. assuming women are attracted to emotionless men that are using them then throwing them away once no longer attractive), have a firm and rational grip with actual technical aspects of reality around you with good behavior prediction rate, often practicing stoicism/Zen Buddhism Purple pill - mix of blue and red pill, having some societally-injected ideals while adhering to solipsistic consequentialism in using other people, but still being driven by societal rewards and the need of approval by others Black pill - nothing matters, you or other people could be already dead, it won't change a thing, universe is random/pointless or created by an evil demiurge in order to torture conscious beings; whatever you do, whether good or evil, is pointless; people use each other all the time, given large enough reward there is no moral rule that couldn't be bent, there is no point in generosity and ideals, just in interests, and they are pointless anyway White pill - universe was created for a reason that is good and everybody wants to get into a meaningful state/end, assuming overcoming obstacles by practicing virtues is necessary in order to reach some noble goal, likely maximizing utility/happiness of everybody, often associated with religion Honestly, I am not sure how one could fight either of those pills as all historical civilizations had their own share of unrealistic myths and there were always groups of people seeing through their facade and taking advantage of better information, validating many of these perspectives and making them common meta-strategies of life.
- burntoutfire 7y ago
  > and one's competence doesn't matter at all This is, thankfully, not true. The truth is that you need to have some baseline level of competency to survive in corporate world. Sometimes it's quite low (for scrum masters, business analysts etc.), but still, these people know a lot more about software than say random person from the street outside the building. The sad part is that, beyond this baseline level of competency, further competency does not help nearly as much as the being good at company politics.
Psyladine 7y ago
Disenchantment. The adult version of finding out life isn't fair, santa isn't real, and no-one really cares about your problems. Real talk it's more like narcissistic injury.