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Woah, this sentiment nails it. Please recommend reading.

tekproxy 7y ago
You didn't ask me but I have a similar outlook and would appreciate reading suggestions. Jordan Peterson talks about the diversity of opinion being important because there is no single or constant fitness function. His lectures on personality get into this a bit. His 12 rules book does not. I believe he's informed a lot by the work of Jonathan Haidt. His book The Righteous Mind is good.
- idclip 7y ago
  It’s actually a lot of child development literature by w.d winicot and r.d laing, and the developmental psychology cult, also my own experience as a meditator, some nietzsche, existential theory (sartre, nausea). I surprisingly didnt read Haidth but ill check him out. Carl Jung’s theory of the collective unconscious influenced me alot too, and i find alot of sense / approval in Peterson's lectures. I generally think the fact that we can generalize our behavior (childrens psych lit, behavioral psych lit.) is so astounding ... the fact we can agree on a minimum set of things we can agree we dont like happening to us (note: smart way of asserting universality of morals, you dont want to be murdered can be a good minimim example here) blows my mind. In the end its what i choose to believe, i dont think im unique in thinking this way either. I think even my thinking’s rightness is the result of that same intra generational process, im not unique, nor do i think i am in control (beyond the local control i exercise by trying not to die or be eaten).
idclip 7y ago
dawkins wrote about memes, carl jung wrote about the collective unconscious, darwin himself is seminal work, behavioral and evolutionary psychology is an attempt to abstract these things. Could even look at military application and research of psychology during war. We don't have to go very far to meet the collective ideal, its almost in every abstraction we make, also in art and seemingly non sciency things. I copied a part of an answer i gave before for the readings, i hope you dont mind.

You didn't ask me but I have a similar outlook and would appreciate reading suggestions. Jordan Peterson talks about the diversity of opinion being important because there is no single or constant fitness function. His lectures on personality get into this a bit. His 12 rules book does not. I believe he's informed a lot by the work of Jonathan Haidt. His book The Righteous Mind is good.

idclip 7y ago
It’s actually a lot of child development literature by w.d winicot and r.d laing, and the developmental psychology cult, also my own experience as a meditator, some nietzsche, existential theory (sartre, nausea). I surprisingly didnt read Haidth but ill check him out. Carl Jung’s theory of the collective unconscious influenced me alot too, and i find alot of sense / approval in Peterson's lectures. I generally think the fact that we can generalize our behavior (childrens psych lit, behavioral psych lit.) is so astounding ... the fact we can agree on a minimum set of things we can agree we dont like happening to us (note: smart way of asserting universality of morals, you dont want to be murdered can be a good minimim example here) blows my mind. In the end its what i choose to believe, i dont think im unique in thinking this way either. I think even my thinking’s rightness is the result of that same intra generational process, im not unique, nor do i think i am in control (beyond the local control i exercise by trying not to die or be eaten).

idclip 7y ago

dawkins wrote about memes, carl jung wrote about the collective unconscious, darwin himself is seminal work, behavioral and evolutionary psychology is an attempt to abstract these things. Could even look at military application and research of psychology during war. We don't have to go very far to meet the collective ideal, its almost in every abstraction we make, also in art and seemingly non sciency things. I copied a part of an answer i gave before for the readings, i hope you dont mind.