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This is a testament to how messed up Android is these days. Have a look at iOS. The minimal set of Apps they ship their phones with aren't bloated or anything b

This is a testament to how messed up Android is these days. Have a look at iOS. The minimal set of Apps they ship their phones with aren't bloated or anything besides useful. Guaranteeing updates if the vendor decides to ship them? It's basically an example of how Apples strategy with tight grip on their platform makes so much sense. iPhone owners don't have to worry about any of that. Generally phones are supported way longer and updates available even for older phones.

ImprovedSilence 7y ago
>> aren’t bloated or anything besides useful. Really? I have a folder on my iPhone three pages deep called “apple junk” which is nothing but all the apple pre installed bloat apps that I never use. Do some people find a use case for them? Sure. But there they are on my phone. Pre installed and just taking up space..
- JiNCMG 7y ago
  Why keep them in a folder? Uninstall them? 3 Pages Deep? That's 27 icons. I don't think a default iPhone comes with 27 pre-installed apps.
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  - freehunter 7y ago
    It’s only been recently that you could uninstall them, and even then it just removes the icon but keeps the data for a lot of these pre-packaged apps.
    - saagarjha 7y ago
      It keeps the system frameworks they rely on. The app itself does go away.
pier25 7y ago
Except that you pay a hefty price for that privilege. In my country people live an entire month for less than what an iPhone costs. I'd probably buy an iPhone if it cost like $300 and didn't have all the bells and whistles. Not because I can't afford one. I just can't see myself spending $1000 on a device where the main use case is communication via WhatsApp.
- gruez 7y ago
  >I'd probably buy an iPhone if it cost like $300 and didn't have all the bells and whistles. The iPhone SE came out at $400, and dropped to less than $200 (locked) a couple of years ago.
  - pier25 7y ago
    I doubt it was as cheap here in Mexico. Currently the cheapest iPhone here is the iPhone 8 4.7'' and it costs about $550 USD.
  - thiagomgd 7y ago
    You assuming US, right? In Brazil it can be 2 months salary if you are starting your career, more if you earn minimum wage.
whywhywhywhy 7y ago
> Have a look at iOS. The minimal set of Apps they ship their phones with aren't bloated or anything besides useful Not sure about yours but mine spams me to sign up for Apple Music every month, came bundled with GarageBand etc and bugs me about creating a Memoji, spams up my messaging app/emoji tray with animojis etc. The days of iOS being the restrained stoic only what you need OS are over because marketing needs to push features to sell handsets and services.
- thiagomgd 7y ago
  Agree! Also, what's the definition of "anything besides useful"? That really depends on what you use. What if you only use the browser (Chrome) and camera? Can you get rid of Safari? And what about all other apple trash?
Cougher 7y ago
Does Apple allow you to make your own ringtone for your own phone yet? Or copy your own songs to your own phone for your own listening?

ImprovedSilence 7y ago

>> aren’t bloated or anything besides useful. Really? I have a folder on my iPhone three pages deep called “apple junk” which is nothing but all the apple pre installed bloat apps that I never use. Do some people find a use case for them? Sure. But there they are on my phone. Pre installed and just taking up space..

JiNCMG 7y ago
Why keep them in a folder? Uninstall them? 3 Pages Deep? That's 27 icons. I don't think a default iPhone comes with 27 pre-installed apps.
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- freehunter 7y ago
  It’s only been recently that you could uninstall them, and even then it just removes the icon but keeps the data for a lot of these pre-packaged apps.
  - saagarjha 7y ago
    It keeps the system frameworks they rely on. The app itself does go away.

pier25 7y ago

Except that you pay a hefty price for that privilege. In my country people live an entire month for less than what an iPhone costs. I'd probably buy an iPhone if it cost like $300 and didn't have all the bells and whistles. Not because I can't afford one. I just can't see myself spending $1000 on a device where the main use case is communication via WhatsApp.

gruez 7y ago
>I'd probably buy an iPhone if it cost like $300 and didn't have all the bells and whistles. The iPhone SE came out at $400, and dropped to less than $200 (locked) a couple of years ago.
- pier25 7y ago
  I doubt it was as cheap here in Mexico. Currently the cheapest iPhone here is the iPhone 8 4.7'' and it costs about $550 USD.
- thiagomgd 7y ago
  You assuming US, right? In Brazil it can be 2 months salary if you are starting your career, more if you earn minimum wage.

whywhywhywhy 7y ago

> Have a look at iOS. The minimal set of Apps they ship their phones with aren't bloated or anything besides useful Not sure about yours but mine spams me to sign up for Apple Music every month, came bundled with GarageBand etc and bugs me about creating a Memoji, spams up my messaging app/emoji tray with animojis etc. The days of iOS being the restrained stoic only what you need OS are over because marketing needs to push features to sell handsets and services.

thiagomgd 7y ago
Agree! Also, what's the definition of "anything besides useful"? That really depends on what you use. What if you only use the browser (Chrome) and camera? Can you get rid of Safari? And what about all other apple trash?

Cougher 7y ago

Does Apple allow you to make your own ringtone for your own phone yet? Or copy your own songs to your own phone for your own listening?