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Do you have a link to this story?

manigandham 7y ago
Here's a few: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17115643 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17115643 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19124324 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19124324 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19432702 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19432702 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21247759 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21247759
- londons_explore 7y ago
  Google's main problem here is they can't tell their side of the story. If only they had some process where a customer could agree to have Google publicly explain why an account was banned, I think we'd see many more explanations along the lines of "This customer was using Google cloud to launch Ddos attacks" or "This customer sent bomb threats to the president".
  - manigandham 7y ago
    How is that a problem? What's stopping them? Google can easily write blog posts or release post mortems or have the dozens of PMs that visit HN talk about it. Considering these links are all about people with valid businesses and apps, I doubt your examples apply for violations.
  - codegladiator 7y ago
    > more explanations along the lines of I am willing to bet there would be zero explanations along those lines.
  - pjc50 7y ago
    What law do you think is preventing them from doing that already? Especially where US residents with no general privacy law are concerned? The only thing that's preventing Google from telling their side of the story is their own refusal to engage human-to-human with individual customers.
    - londons_explore 7y ago
      Both the law and Googles privacy policy stops them telling the world if you sent bomb threats to the president. That's still your private mail. They can't go looking it it, let alone telling the world about it.
      - pjc50 7y ago
        > the law Which law? > That's still your private mail. They can't go looking it it, They definitely subject it to all kinds of automated scanning for spam and potentially abuse. The nearest thing to a public statement from Google on the subject seems to be: “very specific cases where you ask us to and give consent, or where we need to for security purposes, such as investigating a bug or abuse” i.e. there may be abuse cases where they read your mail without asking.
  - asah 7y ago
    Downvote - Google could reply here on HN, which is one of (if not THE) top developer site in the world.

Here's a few: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17115643 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17115643 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19124324 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19124324 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19432702 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19432702 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21247759 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21247759

londons_explore 7y ago
Google's main problem here is they can't tell their side of the story. If only they had some process where a customer could agree to have Google publicly explain why an account was banned, I think we'd see many more explanations along the lines of "This customer was using Google cloud to launch Ddos attacks" or "This customer sent bomb threats to the president".
- manigandham 7y ago
  How is that a problem? What's stopping them? Google can easily write blog posts or release post mortems or have the dozens of PMs that visit HN talk about it. Considering these links are all about people with valid businesses and apps, I doubt your examples apply for violations.
- codegladiator 7y ago
  > more explanations along the lines of I am willing to bet there would be zero explanations along those lines.
- pjc50 7y ago
  What law do you think is preventing them from doing that already? Especially where US residents with no general privacy law are concerned? The only thing that's preventing Google from telling their side of the story is their own refusal to engage human-to-human with individual customers.
  - londons_explore 7y ago
    Both the law and Googles privacy policy stops them telling the world if you sent bomb threats to the president. That's still your private mail. They can't go looking it it, let alone telling the world about it.
    - pjc50 7y ago
      > the law Which law? > That's still your private mail. They can't go looking it it, They definitely subject it to all kinds of automated scanning for spam and potentially abuse. The nearest thing to a public statement from Google on the subject seems to be: “very specific cases where you ask us to and give consent, or where we need to for security purposes, such as investigating a bug or abuse” i.e. there may be abuse cases where they read your mail without asking.
- asah 7y ago
  Downvote - Google could reply here on HN, which is one of (if not THE) top developer site in the world.