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What vaccinations do you take and why? There is a vaccination for malaria, but not everyone takes that. Is that unethical? Some states vaccinate for polio, some

What vaccinations do you take and why? There is a vaccination for malaria, but not everyone takes that. Is that unethical? Some states vaccinate for polio, some don’t. Who is right? In my view, every vaccine is choice with a risk, cost, and reward. Depending on how prevalent a disease is society can either force everyone to take the vaccine risk for herd immunity, or allow people to make their own choices. If people are allowed to choose, generally speaking parents decide for their children. It would be fairly sad to allow a child to to self vaccinate, then have them die from developing a complication when we know that children make poor long term risk/reward decisions.

xupybd 7y ago
True but some are causing problems right now. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-50659893 https://www.bbc.com/news/health-50659893 I'm in New Zealand we have an outbreak at present, largely due to fear around vacinations in middle to upper class families. It's crazy.
- sintaxi 7y ago
  This article is deliberately misleading you. Here are WHO statistics which show immunization rates in New Zealand (which are higher than they have ever been before)... https://www.who.int/immunization/monitoring_surveillance/data/nzl.pdf https://www.who.int/immunization/monitoring_surveillance/dat... Here are WHO statistics which show incidences of vaccine-preventable diseases in New Zealand (there is no notable increase)... http://apps.who.int/immunization_monitoring/globalsummary/incidences?c=NZL http://apps.who.int/immunization_monitoring/globalsummary/in...
  - teruakohatu 7y ago
    I was going to reply saying the same thing. Here is a Stats NZ breakdown: http://archive.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/snapshots-of-nz/nz-social-indicators/Home/Health/childhood-immunisation.aspx http://archive.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/snapshots-of-n... The loony anti-vax middle class need to be watched to prevent a future outbreak, but given the numbers it is hard to argue they are responsible for this one.
  - xupybd 7y ago
    Interesting I'd assumed the recent outbreak (https://www.health.govt.nz/your-health/conditions-and-treatments/diseases-and-illnesses/measles/2019-20-measles-outbreak-information#cases https://www.health.govt.nz/your-health/conditions-and-treatm...) was due to a drop in vaccinations, I stand corrected.
- true_religion 7y ago
  I am all for forcing people to vaccinate for the good of all, but if we are going to allow people to pick and choose in general then it’s reasonable to allow adults to choose for their children.

xupybd 7y ago

True but some are causing problems right now. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-50659893 https://www.bbc.com/news/health-50659893 I'm in New Zealand we have an outbreak at present, largely due to fear around vacinations in middle to upper class families. It's crazy.

sintaxi 7y ago
This article is deliberately misleading you. Here are WHO statistics which show immunization rates in New Zealand (which are higher than they have ever been before)... https://www.who.int/immunization/monitoring_surveillance/data/nzl.pdf https://www.who.int/immunization/monitoring_surveillance/dat... Here are WHO statistics which show incidences of vaccine-preventable diseases in New Zealand (there is no notable increase)... http://apps.who.int/immunization_monitoring/globalsummary/incidences?c=NZL http://apps.who.int/immunization_monitoring/globalsummary/in...
- teruakohatu 7y ago
  I was going to reply saying the same thing. Here is a Stats NZ breakdown: http://archive.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/snapshots-of-nz/nz-social-indicators/Home/Health/childhood-immunisation.aspx http://archive.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/snapshots-of-n... The loony anti-vax middle class need to be watched to prevent a future outbreak, but given the numbers it is hard to argue they are responsible for this one.
- xupybd 7y ago
  Interesting I'd assumed the recent outbreak (https://www.health.govt.nz/your-health/conditions-and-treatments/diseases-and-illnesses/measles/2019-20-measles-outbreak-information#cases https://www.health.govt.nz/your-health/conditions-and-treatm...) was due to a drop in vaccinations, I stand corrected.
true_religion 7y ago
I am all for forcing people to vaccinate for the good of all, but if we are going to allow people to pick and choose in general then it’s reasonable to allow adults to choose for their children.