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> I think a problem with this line of reasoning is that people forget what we used to do before we had certain conveniences. If indoor plumbing disappears, peop
by thereisnospork 7y ago
> I think a problem with this line of reasoning is that people forget what we used to do before we had certain conveniences. If indoor plumbing disappears, people would just read a book for 15mins or plan everything to take the extra time into account.
Of course people would get by, but their lives would be worse and advocating for making people's lives worse is kind of a shitty thing to do.
- 2muchcoffeeman 7y agoFalse equivalence. Indoor plumbing is nothing like an app to call a taxi. Also see both my points. You don’t know if their lives would get worse. You’ve just assumed that the main goal of everyone is to hyper optimise their lives.
- thereisnospork 7y agoYes I do know their lives would get worse[1] and yes it is an equivalent. You think when indoor plumbing came around people weren't arguing how it was an unnecessary luxury and making people soft and how that wasted time walking to the outhouse builds character and refocuses the self and how we'd all be better off without it? [1] Because they have said they do, repeatedly, with their wallets.