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It's another bogeyman red herring. The issue is very straightforward: central planning fails. Nearly all critical infrastructure in the form of homes (zoning),

It's another bogeyman red herring. The issue is very straightforward: central planning fails. Nearly all critical infrastructure in the form of homes (zoning), roads, water, and electricity and related services are centrally planned. It is almost impossible to do anything outside of a municipality, which didn't used to be the case. Without this central planning failure it would be impossible to "take advantage" of any market, as home builders would just build homes until the "launderers" run out of cash.

empath75 7y ago
Have you ever been to a developing country? They work they way you suggest. People just run electricity and water wherever they can and throw up houses anywhere. Turns out it’s not actually an improvement though.
- generalpass 7y ago
  > Have you ever been to a developing country? They work they way you suggest. People just run electricity and water wherever they can and throw up houses anywhere. > Turns out it’s not actually an improvement though. I have been to several. If you are trying to make some sort of direct comparison, your argument seems inadequate, as there are so many differences impacting economic activity.
- CamperBob2 7y ago
  It's even harder to find examples where government micromanagement has made a market fairer and more accessible to all participants. The mere existence of Addis Ababa can hardly be cited to justify housing policies in San Francisco.
- aianus 7y ago
  Nonsense, I've lived in several and it was great. $500/mo rent and much better quality of life than a similar $4000/mo place in SF.
  - empath75 7y ago
    Yeah living in the developing world is great when you’re there telecommuting and have an american or uk passport and can just leave whenever you feel like it.
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tossAfterUsing 7y ago
Exactly this. reducing incentives toward central planning would remove downward pressure on decentralizing systems. I vote for more decentralized systems.

empath75 7y ago

Have you ever been to a developing country? They work they way you suggest. People just run electricity and water wherever they can and throw up houses anywhere. Turns out it’s not actually an improvement though.

generalpass 7y ago
> Have you ever been to a developing country? They work they way you suggest. People just run electricity and water wherever they can and throw up houses anywhere. > Turns out it’s not actually an improvement though. I have been to several. If you are trying to make some sort of direct comparison, your argument seems inadequate, as there are so many differences impacting economic activity.
CamperBob2 7y ago
It's even harder to find examples where government micromanagement has made a market fairer and more accessible to all participants. The mere existence of Addis Ababa can hardly be cited to justify housing policies in San Francisco.
aianus 7y ago
Nonsense, I've lived in several and it was great. $500/mo rent and much better quality of life than a similar $4000/mo place in SF.
- empath75 7y ago
  Yeah living in the developing world is great when you’re there telecommuting and have an american or uk passport and can just leave whenever you feel like it.

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tossAfterUsing 7y ago

Exactly this. reducing incentives toward central planning would remove downward pressure on decentralizing systems. I vote for more decentralized systems.