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It‘s slready like a meme: the typical comment on the google cloud that it could be closed tomorrow. When will everyone understand that google cloud (money earn

by tpetry 7y ago

It‘s slready like a meme: the typical comment on the google cloud that it could be closed tomorrow. When will everyone understand that google cloud (money earning product) is different to all the other free products

xenospn 7y ago
Burden of proof is on Google.
llampx 7y ago
Money-earning products have been shut down at Google before.
gumby 7y ago
> When will everyone understand that google cloud (money earning product) is different to all the other free products When Google demonstrates it. They've already discontinued various parts of their cloud product. True, they are unlikely to shut down gmail, search, or Android. On the other hand google's cloud is a money loser that has slipped to a distant #4 in the cloud rankings. But like many of Google's revenue-generating products it exists to show Wall Street that they have an increasingly diversified revenue stream (I think advertising is "down" to around 87%). They have lots of bets to try an improve this but little to show for it. They did recently commit $2B to making GCP a player but I suspect that if that doesn't show results by the end of 2020, investment in this sector will fall precipitously.
- tpetry 7y ago
  Do you have examples of discontinued Google Cloud Platform products?
  - libria 7y ago
    https://cloud.google.com/prediction/ https://cloud.google.com/prediction/
  - gumby 7y ago
    You don't need to ask me: Google provides their own handy list of examples (some like messaging API show up under other names like XMPP; others don't appear on this list because they were marketed differently, e.g. Google Print): https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/deprecations/ https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/deprecations/
    - dodobirdlord 7y ago
      Many of those seem to have been around for well more than the 1 year deprecation minimum, and most of them appear to be some combination of Alpha/Beta products or language runtimes. Alpha/Beta products aren't really on-topic, and the language runtime stuff doesn't look all that different from how AWS does runtime deprecations. https://docs.aws.amazon.com/lambda/latest/dg/runtime-support-policy.html https://docs.aws.amazon.com/lambda/latest/dg/runtime-support...
    - manigandham 7y ago
      Those are just features of a single product (appengine) which has been around for more than a decade and through several generations. Every product under every cloud vendor has API and feature changes over the lifetime. GCP has never had a major product line shutdown. The only thing that comes close is Google Maps API pricing changes, but technically the service is still there and has even more functionality.

by tpetry 7y ago

xenospn 7y ago

Burden of proof is on Google.

llampx 7y ago

Money-earning products have been shut down at Google before.

gumby 7y ago

> When will everyone understand that google cloud (money earning product) is different to all the other free products When Google demonstrates it. They've already discontinued various parts of their cloud product. True, they are unlikely to shut down gmail, search, or Android. On the other hand google's cloud is a money loser that has slipped to a distant #4 in the cloud rankings. But like many of Google's revenue-generating products it exists to show Wall Street that they have an increasingly diversified revenue stream (I think advertising is "down" to around 87%). They have lots of bets to try an improve this but little to show for it. They did recently commit $2B to making GCP a player but I suspect that if that doesn't show results by the end of 2020, investment in this sector will fall precipitously.

tpetry 7y ago
Do you have examples of discontinued Google Cloud Platform products?
- libria 7y ago
  https://cloud.google.com/prediction/ https://cloud.google.com/prediction/
- gumby 7y ago
  You don't need to ask me: Google provides their own handy list of examples (some like messaging API show up under other names like XMPP; others don't appear on this list because they were marketed differently, e.g. Google Print): https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/deprecations/ https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/deprecations/
  - dodobirdlord 7y ago
    Many of those seem to have been around for well more than the 1 year deprecation minimum, and most of them appear to be some combination of Alpha/Beta products or language runtimes. Alpha/Beta products aren't really on-topic, and the language runtime stuff doesn't look all that different from how AWS does runtime deprecations. https://docs.aws.amazon.com/lambda/latest/dg/runtime-support-policy.html https://docs.aws.amazon.com/lambda/latest/dg/runtime-support...
  - manigandham 7y ago
    Those are just features of a single product (appengine) which has been around for more than a decade and through several generations. Every product under every cloud vendor has API and feature changes over the lifetime. GCP has never had a major product line shutdown. The only thing that comes close is Google Maps API pricing changes, but technically the service is still there and has even more functionality.