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Would part of that bastardization since 1776 be the Emancipation Proclamation of 1863?

shijie 7y ago
It seems a bit disingenuous to assume that the parent commenter laments the emancipation proclamation just because he/she has a differing view on fiscal policy. This is ad hominem by definition. Not very contributory to the conversation. What parts of his/her points do you disagree with?
- scarejunba 7y ago
  Oh this one is easy. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22027504 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22027504 for the statement: > The worst thing to happen to minorites in the US was the civil Rights Act of 1964. If you think I’m quoting out of context, entertain yourself with the rest of the comment. It’s on this very story. No digging necessary.
  - petermcneeley 7y ago
    +1 nice find.
ghastmaster 7y ago
No. What happened in 1776 was a Constitutional Republic whose amendment process led to the 13th amendment. Liberty is a good thing.
- petermcneeley 7y ago
  I think most would be disturbed by your support of violent revolutionaries that took it upon themselves to seize the rightful property of the sovereign based on their perceived injustices.
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  - ghastmaster 7y ago
    I have no idea how you got the idea that I support violent revolutionaries. I simply stated that the 13th amendment(Emancipation Proclamation implied connection) resulted in liberty. That liberty was justified by the constitution created in 1776. Without that constitution, however it came about, emancipation may have never happened. My original comment stated that this was a fundamental shift as opposed to the authors statements.
    - petermcneeley 7y ago
      First when you say liberty your mean negative liberty. The supposed shift is from negative to positive liberty. Second The violent revolutionaries are the Englishman that participated in the American Revolution (1776). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_liberty https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_liberty
      - ghastmaster 7y ago
        I do mean negetive liberty. I have never heard of the different types of liberty. Thank you for pointing that out! I need to point out that I do know the constitution was not written in 1776 even though I stated that previously.

It seems a bit disingenuous to assume that the parent commenter laments the emancipation proclamation just because he/she has a differing view on fiscal policy. This is ad hominem by definition. Not very contributory to the conversation. What parts of his/her points do you disagree with?

scarejunba 7y ago
Oh this one is easy. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22027504 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22027504 for the statement: > The worst thing to happen to minorites in the US was the civil Rights Act of 1964. If you think I’m quoting out of context, entertain yourself with the rest of the comment. It’s on this very story. No digging necessary.
- petermcneeley 7y ago
  +1 nice find.

ghastmaster 7y ago

No. What happened in 1776 was a Constitutional Republic whose amendment process led to the 13th amendment. Liberty is a good thing.

petermcneeley 7y ago
I think most would be disturbed by your support of violent revolutionaries that took it upon themselves to seize the rightful property of the sovereign based on their perceived injustices.
- deleted 7y ago
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- ghastmaster 7y ago
  I have no idea how you got the idea that I support violent revolutionaries. I simply stated that the 13th amendment(Emancipation Proclamation implied connection) resulted in liberty. That liberty was justified by the constitution created in 1776. Without that constitution, however it came about, emancipation may have never happened. My original comment stated that this was a fundamental shift as opposed to the authors statements.
  - petermcneeley 7y ago
    First when you say liberty your mean negative liberty. The supposed shift is from negative to positive liberty. Second The violent revolutionaries are the Englishman that participated in the American Revolution (1776). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_liberty https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_liberty
    - ghastmaster 7y ago
      I do mean negetive liberty. I have never heard of the different types of liberty. Thank you for pointing that out! I need to point out that I do know the constitution was not written in 1776 even though I stated that previously.