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From the article: 'the death toll now stands at more than 50 people ' (over a few years) https://crimeresearch.org/2015/01/do-more-children-die-of-bathtub-drow

From the article: 'the death toll now stands at more than 50 people ' (over a few years) https://crimeresearch.org/2015/01/do-more-children-die-of-bathtub-drownings-than-of-accidental-shootings-no/ https://crimeresearch.org/2015/01/do-more-children-die-of-ba... Annual rate of 69 children each year that die from... bathtubs. Seems a bit overblown... However... Anytime you have large numbers of unmarried men, you have social problems. This holds across multiple societies and multiple cultures across millennia.

93po 7y ago
It is. The whole "incel" movement is just manufactured outrage used to generate clicks
comicjk 7y ago
People with young children do worry about them drowning in the bath and take steps to prevent it. A better example of underfocused deaths, to contrast with the overfocus on unusual murders, would be car accidents.
minimuffins 7y ago
Bathtubs aren't a novel cultural formation. Bathtubs also don't kill people on purpose because of beliefs they've recently adopted. Personally I think it is reasonable that we talk more about incel killings than bathtub killings. The problem is not that incels pose an objective risk to my safety or yours but that their presence signals some kind of pretty serious systemic dysfunction. How does an ideology like that take hold on any kind of scale, is a question worth trying to answer.
- Gibbon1 7y ago
  My bullshit theory is crimes have three potential 'against's' Against a person. Against a community. And against the state. Mass shootings check all three boxes hard.
awb 7y ago
Jordan Peterson has a quote roughly to the effect of: if you make people play a game they can't win they might flip the whole board over. Basically, people who feel powerless get angry. I think the blanket mindset is: I want X. I don't have X because of those people. Replace X and those people as needed and it covers the philosophy behind a lot of violence and division.

93po 7y ago

It is. The whole "incel" movement is just manufactured outrage used to generate clicks

comicjk 7y ago

People with young children do worry about them drowning in the bath and take steps to prevent it. A better example of underfocused deaths, to contrast with the overfocus on unusual murders, would be car accidents.

minimuffins 7y ago

Bathtubs aren't a novel cultural formation. Bathtubs also don't kill people on purpose because of beliefs they've recently adopted. Personally I think it is reasonable that we talk more about incel killings than bathtub killings. The problem is not that incels pose an objective risk to my safety or yours but that their presence signals some kind of pretty serious systemic dysfunction. How does an ideology like that take hold on any kind of scale, is a question worth trying to answer.

Gibbon1 7y ago
My bullshit theory is crimes have three potential 'against's' Against a person. Against a community. And against the state. Mass shootings check all three boxes hard.

awb 7y ago

Jordan Peterson has a quote roughly to the effect of: if you make people play a game they can't win they might flip the whole board over. Basically, people who feel powerless get angry. I think the blanket mindset is: I want X. I don't have X because of those people. Replace X and those people as needed and it covers the philosophy behind a lot of violence and division.