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It’s not misogynistic if it’s true. The dating scene is absolutely brutal for a lot men, atleast until they can date women in their late twenties. The source i

It’s not misogynistic if it’s true. The dating scene is absolutely brutal for a lot men, atleast until they can date women in their late twenties. The source is basically all I did for the last five years was work and chase women in major cities. I’ve seen it all

crystaldev 7y ago
A phrase like "top 10% of men" doesn't even compute for a woman. Women have wildly different tastes in men. It's men who rate women 1-10 and who exhibit consensus in their tastes. > The source is basically all I did for the last five years was work and chase women in major cities. I’ve seen it all Maybe it's you.
- corporateslave5 7y ago
  clearly there’s an incel problem now that didn’t exist in the past. The problem is the internet. These guys not getting laid know why they aren’t getting laid. Go ahead and try and stick your head in the sand
  - pmoriarty 7y ago
    The way the internet contributes to the problem is that it makes it much easier for violent extremists to connect to each other and together they amplify and reinforce each other's extremism. As to why incels think they're not getting laid: people are very good at lying to themselves, and rarely have the strength or honesty to face negative aspects of their own personalities. It's much easier to lash out at others and blame them for problems of one's own making. This is seen again and again in all sorts of abusers. Self-identified incels are just a new version of this.
- allovernow 7y ago
  >Women have wildly different tastes in men. It's men who rate women 1-10 and who exhibit consensus in their tastes. This is borderline misandrist nonsense. Whether men or women explicitly rate members of the other sex on a scale in private doesn't change that 1. Males and females both have preferences which in aggregate assign some uneven value and therefore rank to potential mates 2. Beauty standards may vary by individual but you simply cannot deny that there are universal traits that make ratings between individuals rather consistent.
WAHa_06x36 7y ago
If.
ivraatiems 7y ago
If your view of dating is that you need to "chase" women, and the only possible reason you can see that women won't date you is because you're not in the top 10%, and you've spent five years on this and not any time rethinking your approach, you do not have sufficient information to prove anyone is the problem except yourself. I'm not saying the online dating scene isn't frustrating. It is. But sweeping generalizations about 51% of humanity on the basis of your negative personal experience isn't going to help anyone, including you yourself.
- allovernow 7y ago
  This isn't just his shitty opinion from personal difficulty. Look at mating patterns in other social creatures, especially primates. Why do you think human attraction can't be similar? Look at primate troops which are naturally dominated by one reproducing male. Now throw in higher level emotions and self awareness and a range of cultures, some of which have norms which encourage early monogamy, others which emphasize social status such that dating distributions start to resemble those of primates. Point is these sweeping generalizations do become accurate depending on which statistics you consider. Dating is asymmetric, and women hold all of the power over the vast majority of men. Don't take my word for it. Find a basically pretty women to go to a bar with and pay attention to the kind of attention she gets, just being passive. Now imagine a male dating successfully by being totally passive - incidentally this very much related to innate behavioral pressure which leads to gender roles.

crystaldev 7y ago

A phrase like "top 10% of men" doesn't even compute for a woman. Women have wildly different tastes in men. It's men who rate women 1-10 and who exhibit consensus in their tastes. > The source is basically all I did for the last five years was work and chase women in major cities. I’ve seen it all Maybe it's you.

corporateslave5 7y ago
clearly there’s an incel problem now that didn’t exist in the past. The problem is the internet. These guys not getting laid know why they aren’t getting laid. Go ahead and try and stick your head in the sand
- pmoriarty 7y ago
  The way the internet contributes to the problem is that it makes it much easier for violent extremists to connect to each other and together they amplify and reinforce each other's extremism. As to why incels think they're not getting laid: people are very good at lying to themselves, and rarely have the strength or honesty to face negative aspects of their own personalities. It's much easier to lash out at others and blame them for problems of one's own making. This is seen again and again in all sorts of abusers. Self-identified incels are just a new version of this.
allovernow 7y ago
>Women have wildly different tastes in men. It's men who rate women 1-10 and who exhibit consensus in their tastes. This is borderline misandrist nonsense. Whether men or women explicitly rate members of the other sex on a scale in private doesn't change that 1. Males and females both have preferences which in aggregate assign some uneven value and therefore rank to potential mates 2. Beauty standards may vary by individual but you simply cannot deny that there are universal traits that make ratings between individuals rather consistent.

WAHa_06x36 7y ago

If.

ivraatiems 7y ago

If your view of dating is that you need to "chase" women, and the only possible reason you can see that women won't date you is because you're not in the top 10%, and you've spent five years on this and not any time rethinking your approach, you do not have sufficient information to prove anyone is the problem except yourself. I'm not saying the online dating scene isn't frustrating. It is. But sweeping generalizations about 51% of humanity on the basis of your negative personal experience isn't going to help anyone, including you yourself.

allovernow 7y ago
This isn't just his shitty opinion from personal difficulty. Look at mating patterns in other social creatures, especially primates. Why do you think human attraction can't be similar? Look at primate troops which are naturally dominated by one reproducing male. Now throw in higher level emotions and self awareness and a range of cultures, some of which have norms which encourage early monogamy, others which emphasize social status such that dating distributions start to resemble those of primates. Point is these sweeping generalizations do become accurate depending on which statistics you consider. Dating is asymmetric, and women hold all of the power over the vast majority of men. Don't take my word for it. Find a basically pretty women to go to a bar with and pay attention to the kind of attention she gets, just being passive. Now imagine a male dating successfully by being totally passive - incidentally this very much related to innate behavioral pressure which leads to gender roles.