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IE9 Release Candidate now available
- zaatar 16y agoIf you're seeing any crazy issues with the IE9 RC, please continue to submit feedback through the right channels [1]. However, I will be monitoring this thread too. Also, I wanted to express my thanks to the news.yc community - I saw some great commentary when Beta shipped, and some neat bug reports too, thanks for helping shape up IE9! :-) [1] http://connect.microsoft.com/ http://connect.microsoft.com/
- kenjackson 16y agoHas the DCE bug that became the center of the SunSpider issue been fixed in the RC?
- zaatar 16y agoActually, no, I don't work with JScript stuff and can't comment, sorry. I'll flag your query to the right folks, and they will look into it. Thanks!
- kenjackson 16y agoThanks. I look forward to the response.
- stuaxo 16y agoI wonder if they've fix the canvas composition modes ?
- contextfree 16y ago"We’ve added support for the HTML5 canvas globalCompositeOperation property"
- Groxx 16y agoI don't see "compliant" in that sentence.
- hoppipolla 16y agoI haven't confirmed it, but I have heard [1] that it tries to download Flash content if you don't have Flash installed. [1] http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/whatwg/20110210#l-826 http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/whatwg/20110210#l-826
- acdha 16y agoAre there any plans to offer test VM images as with previous versions?
- zaatar 16y agoDo you mean VMs for IE9, the final release whenever it goes live? I haven't heard anything otherwise, so I would assume, "yes". We're very serious about Compatibility, and making it simple for web developers to build websites, so I would honestly be really surprised if we stopped offering VMs. That said, the correct answer is, "I don't know".
- JunkDNA 16y agoZaatar, I appreciate your visiting and giving us some info on things. Can you elaborate as to why the VMs are only for MS Virtual PC. A lot of us use VMWare and it is so painful and silly that we can't use it directly to test browsers. I know VMWare competes with MS in this fashion, but it's this kind of "our way or the highway" that irritates me.
- acdha 16y agoThanks - I've been wanting to test IE9 but the lack of XP compatibility prevented me from using it on the only VM OS I have. I'd love images which work on VMware or VirtualBox (or are at least have a license allowing conversion) for Mac users
- pca 16y agoI've noticed something very tiny: Using the Windows Classic theme on Windows 7 x64, the close button of the Favorites Bar (the black X with the mouseover text "Close the Favorites Center") isn't displayed properly if the bar is very slim. Oddly on Windows Server 2008 R2 x64 this doesn't happen, because here the Favorites Bar has an extra button "Add to Favorites" and the 'X' is on that button's row. http://i.imgur.com/OgEt2.png http://i.imgur.com/OgEt2.png (nevermind the "InPrivate" in the left example, in the normal mode the bar looks exactly the same)
- Tsiolkovsky 16y agoDoes it already have integrated support for WebM and Ogg Theora video?
- kenjackson 16y agoInternet Explorer 9 RC supports playback of H.264-encoded video using the HTML5 video tag and now WebM video as well when a VP8 coded is installed on Windows. Appears no Theora support.
- ck2 16y agoI hope someone hacks it to work on XP by the end of the year (even without acceleration) so I can figure out what additional workarounds have to be done to all my stylesheets. Hmm, maybe browsershots will eventually list it.
- guywithabike 16y agoXP came out almost 10 years ago. Now is probably a good time to upgrade. October, 2001
- ck2 16y agoSo is the base version of javascript used in most browsers today, why is age a reason to upgrade as long as it's maintained? There is no direct upgrade path to Windows 7 from XP, and I am not rebuilding my environment and re-installing all my apps, I have a better use for my days. XP is fast and "stable", well documented, everything runs on it. I've yet to see a good reason to "upgrade" to something else that won't even fit on a CD.
- bkhl 16y ago"XP is fast and "stable", well documented, everything runs on it. I've yet to see a good reason to "upgrade" to something else that won't even fit on a CD." This just sounds like you still haven't used Windows 7. Well, if you don't try, you wouldn't know how good it is. Windows 7 is indeed fast and stable. Stability can mean different for different aspects, but Windows 7 gets updated constantly whereas XP is still open to a lot of vulnerabilities.
- trustfundbaby 16y ago> There is no direct upgrade path to Windows 7 from XP, and I am not rebuilding my environment and re-installing all my apps, I have a better use for my days You missed that.
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- golgo13 16y agoAlas, a restart was required. Hopefully watch.slingbox.com will work correctly now. In the past, I had to restart the browser when navigating to watch my slingbox.
- golgo13 16y agoAfter installing, slingbox.com worked without a hitch! Good work guys and gals! (I know, replying to myself)
- swix 16y agoDoes it now support css transitions/transforms?
- kenjackson 16y agoCSS2D Transforms Internet Explorer 9 RC adds support for the CSS3 2D Transforms module, which enables elements that are rendered by CSS to be transformed in two dimensional space.
- richbradshaw 16y agoTransforms yes, transitions no unfortunately. Also, no 3d transforms, just 2d ones.
- jkkramer 16y agoFingers crossed that they do it right this time. Right now I informally group browsers to test into four groups: IE6, IE7, IE8, and all the rest (where it's rare to find inconsistencies or WTFs). It would be great if IE9 went into the "all the rest" category.
- allbutlost 16y agoI've been running the beta for a couple of months now, testing sites I've been building on it as I go along. I can tentatively say that yes, it falls into the "all the rest" category for most common css/js issues that have plagued all its predecessors to varying degrees. It has still felt too slow, bloated and plagued with dialogues ("I can run faster, disable add-ons", "This page wants to use flash" etc) to serve as my main browser (currently FF for work and chrome for play), but the sooner IE users move to IE9 the better for front-end devs the world over. Thumbs up from me to MS for IE9.
- zaatar 16y agoIE9 RC has a ton of bugfixes and improvements over Beta. Compatibility rates are higher. If you liked Beta, you're gonna love the RC! And we did take in feedback and refactored a bunch of our dialogs & notification system for RC too ...
- fletchowns 16y agoUnfortunately I despise IE too much at this point to ever bother trying to use it again as my main browser. You made us all suffer too much over the years, sorry guys.
- trustfundbaby 16y agoI really actually am actively rooting for them to fail because of this ... does it make me a bad person?
- rudiger 16y agoI don't think this is the right attitude to have. You should judge IE9 by its own merit, not by past misgivings. You can't (and shouldn't) be compelled to try IE9, but the reason you aren't using it should be that another browser works just fine for you, not because you wholeheartedly reject Microsoft for past suffering. Also, it's my belief that the suffering we faced with IE is less an issue with the browsers themselves, and more of an issue with the update schedule. IE6 was very good at the time of it's release; it's a shame that it took so long for IE7 and IE8. But now, with Chrome (and now Firefox) releasing several major versions a year, we should see more and better developments in the browser space.
- fletchowns 16y agoIf for some reason Firefox, Chrome, and Opera didn't work out for me, only then would I try switching back to IE. It is the order in which I would try the different browsers that the history of IE is considered. I don't see myself considering a switch anytime soon since I love Firefox.
- ZoFreX 16y agoYou should at least try it, even if you have no intention of switching. IE9 is blazingly fast on my netbook, even more so than my browser of choice, Chrome. While I have no intention of switching right now, it's a win for everyone that IE is a serious competitor - once IE9 has mainstream adoption it'll push Chrome, Opera and Firefox to be even faster to stay ahead.
- busticated 16y agoHeads-up for those with a penchant for ignoring the small print... IE9 RC will replace IE8... iow, there's no obvious way to install them side-by-side. As if anyone would really want to do that /sarcasm.
- trustfundbaby 16y agoCan someone from microsoft tell me why they can't allow us just install IE6/7/8/9 side by side so we can test in them? And no ... running a VM is not an acceptable option.
- zaatar 16y agoFrom an Engineering + Compatibility point of view, we just can't take the hit. There are way too many third party apps that host Trident, and having multiple copies puts those apps out of wack. It's simply impossible to have multiple copies of mshtml.dll on your box and have all of the IEs and all of the third party apps out there behave nicely. Even if we broke a measly 0.1% of our users, we're still talking a really huge number ... we don't have some solutions rolled out because it breaks a bunch of users, and that is not acceptable. Disclaimer: Even though I work for Microsoft/IE, this isn't an "official" response. It's just my own opinion :)
- trustfundbaby 16y agoI actually appreciate that response ... why can't they be more upfront about stuff like this especially with developers?
- tsta 16y agoTry IETester: "IETester is a free WebBrowser that allows you to have the rendering and javascript engines of IE9 preview, IE8, IE7 IE 6 and IE5.5 on Windows 7, Vista and XP, as well as the installed IE in the same process. " http://www.my-debugbar.com/wiki/IETester/HomePage http://www.my-debugbar.com/wiki/IETester/HomePage