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If it’s elitist to listen to people who have researched a subject (nutritionists, public health experts, etc.) rather than every person who has produced offspri

If it’s elitist to listen to people who have researched a subject (nutritionists, public health experts, etc.) rather than every person who has produced offspring, so be it.

useragent86 7y ago
It's not elitist to listen to them. It is elitist to force others to do so.
JamesBarney 7y ago
Experts have no idea if banning dollar stores will improve the diet of people in the neighborhood, no idea if even if it improves diet that will lead to measureable health outcomes. And even if it leads to measurable effects that those effects are large enough to be worth the inconvenience of not being able to go to a dollar store. Researchers don't know if even one of those causal links is real, much less all of them.
- extra88 7y ago
  What is the basis for your claim that "experts" have no idea if banning will work? The posted article was written to counter stories about efforts to limit dollar stores and encourage full-service grocery stores. The story's tool is a paper [0] by economists who analyzed data and found that access to full-service grocery stores does not make a meaningful difference. So those experts (economists) think they do any have idea if it will work, they think it won't. It fits the author's and their publications conservative, small-government beliefs; I can't speak to the quality of the paper. Anyway, my comment was in response to disdain for experts in favor of parents. That sort of anti-intellectual mindset can hit the road. [0] https://academic.oup.com/qje/article/134/4/1793/5492274 https://academic.oup.com/qje/article/134/4/1793/5492274
  - useragent86 7y ago
    > Anyway, my comment was in response to disdain for experts in favor of parents. That sort of anti-intellectual mindset can hit the road. That sneering disdain for the self-determination of "anti-intellectuals" has led to much human suffering. Rule of experts does not scale. And academia does not necessarily produce superior expertise. Indeed, the endemic, institutional corruption often produces the opposite. Rationalia would be no paradise.

If it’s elitist to listen to people who have researched a subject (nutritionists, public health experts, etc.) rather than every person who has produced offspring, so be it.

useragent86 7y ago

It's not elitist to listen to them. It is elitist to force others to do so.

JamesBarney 7y ago

Experts have no idea if banning dollar stores will improve the diet of people in the neighborhood, no idea if even if it improves diet that will lead to measureable health outcomes. And even if it leads to measurable effects that those effects are large enough to be worth the inconvenience of not being able to go to a dollar store. Researchers don't know if even one of those causal links is real, much less all of them.

extra88 7y ago
What is the basis for your claim that "experts" have no idea if banning will work? The posted article was written to counter stories about efforts to limit dollar stores and encourage full-service grocery stores. The story's tool is a paper [0] by economists who analyzed data and found that access to full-service grocery stores does not make a meaningful difference. So those experts (economists) think they do any have idea if it will work, they think it won't. It fits the author's and their publications conservative, small-government beliefs; I can't speak to the quality of the paper. Anyway, my comment was in response to disdain for experts in favor of parents. That sort of anti-intellectual mindset can hit the road. [0] https://academic.oup.com/qje/article/134/4/1793/5492274 https://academic.oup.com/qje/article/134/4/1793/5492274
- useragent86 7y ago
  > Anyway, my comment was in response to disdain for experts in favor of parents. That sort of anti-intellectual mindset can hit the road. That sneering disdain for the self-determination of "anti-intellectuals" has led to much human suffering. Rule of experts does not scale. And academia does not necessarily produce superior expertise. Indeed, the endemic, institutional corruption often produces the opposite. Rationalia would be no paradise.