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2nd law of thermodynamics: it's always cheaper to avoid a mess than it is to clean it up. Ergo, better to use the political route.

syshum 7y ago
While yes it is cheaper to avoid the mess, innovation can lead to avoiding the mess I do not believe that the "political route" of taxation and violence is the best way to "avoid the mess", in fact I believe that will only prolong and increase the mess and do nothing to avoid it. Governments are ineffective and inefficient, all government solutions are based on threats of violence, and we know from centuries of history violence is not the solution to any problem, thus government is not the solution to any problem GOVERNMENT: If you think your problems are bad, just wait until you see our solutions
- ocschwar 7y ago
  > I do not believe that the "political route" of taxation and violence is the best way to "avoid the mess" The reason I have clean water in my tap is that the eco-fascist goons of the Massachusetts Water Resources Authority guard the Quabbin Reservoir with all the zealotry you'd expect of the Commonwealth. So, taxation and violence. And it's cheaper than forcing every resident of Massachusetts to buy a home water filter.
mytailorisrich 7y ago
I think that the point being made is that nothing is being done. It's all talk and show, including my many so-called activists. What is needed is action. Not only government action but individual action, right now. An example: Plastics used by supermarkets to pack fruits and veg. Arguably that should be banned. But equally supermarkets wouldn't do it if people didn't buy all the same. So let's just stop buying fruits and veg packed in plastic. It might mean not buying anything for some time, but we'll survive. That's called putting your money where your mouth is.
agumonkey 7y ago
a random googling gave http://www.eoht.info/page/Political+thermodynamics http://www.eoht.info/page/Political+thermodynamics I'm curious now

syshum 7y ago

While yes it is cheaper to avoid the mess, innovation can lead to avoiding the mess I do not believe that the "political route" of taxation and violence is the best way to "avoid the mess", in fact I believe that will only prolong and increase the mess and do nothing to avoid it. Governments are ineffective and inefficient, all government solutions are based on threats of violence, and we know from centuries of history violence is not the solution to any problem, thus government is not the solution to any problem GOVERNMENT: If you think your problems are bad, just wait until you see our solutions

ocschwar 7y ago
> I do not believe that the "political route" of taxation and violence is the best way to "avoid the mess" The reason I have clean water in my tap is that the eco-fascist goons of the Massachusetts Water Resources Authority guard the Quabbin Reservoir with all the zealotry you'd expect of the Commonwealth. So, taxation and violence. And it's cheaper than forcing every resident of Massachusetts to buy a home water filter.

mytailorisrich 7y ago

I think that the point being made is that nothing is being done. It's all talk and show, including my many so-called activists. What is needed is action. Not only government action but individual action, right now. An example: Plastics used by supermarkets to pack fruits and veg. Arguably that should be banned. But equally supermarkets wouldn't do it if people didn't buy all the same. So let's just stop buying fruits and veg packed in plastic. It might mean not buying anything for some time, but we'll survive. That's called putting your money where your mouth is.

agumonkey 7y ago

a random googling gave http://www.eoht.info/page/Political+thermodynamics http://www.eoht.info/page/Political+thermodynamics I'm curious now