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I hope you have backups, at the very least. Yes, most subscriptions generally say in the ToS that the account and all assets may be closed/deleted at the sole
by K0SM0S 7y ago
I hope you have backups, at the very least.
Yes, most subscriptions generally say in the ToS that the account and all assets may be closed/deleted at the sole discretion of the provider. It's anecdotally rare, but depending on the company (quality of customer service), it may be irreversible, or take a long time to fix.
My personal rule is to never trust a third-party to "protect" my data; there is no such thing in today's market and legal frameworks (unless you have a face-to-face relationship, and even then, backups!)
- xwowsersx 7y agoThanks. What's the cheapest or most cost-effective way to backup all my photos? S3?
- boring_twenties 7y agoBuy an external hard drive or SSD, download the photos to it, put it in a safe place away from your other computer stuff.
- xwowsersx 7y agoThat's viable for sure, but one thing I'd like is regular backups of the photos from my phone (where most I take most of my photos). That's the nice thing about Google Photos with Google One - all my stuff is backed up to the cloud regularly. I understand, though, that this comes with some risk.
- mceachen 7y agoI use Resilio Sync, and have tried SyncThing. Both work. They both have an app you run in your phone, and a companion app you run on macOS, Windows, Linux, or your NAS, and it syncs (even through a NAT) whatever you've configured to backup on your phone to N servers. If you're away from home, you can run it on your laptop next to you, so your phone is backed up quickly, and then throughout the day you laptop can sync with your home server while you're out exploring. It's nice. I have two backups online, and an external drive I rsync to monthly then turn off. Before you delete your originals in Google Photo, use Takeout to validate the files. Mine (at "original quality") were mangled.
- cameronbrown 7y agoThat's why I use Google Photos/Drive as source of truth and keep regular, offline backups based on that.
- K0SM0S 7y agoA few remarks from personal experience: - I recommend Syncthing (easy) or Seafile (more features). Both are free for personal use but the latter is a product (paid plans, support), Syncthing is more of a 'project' (both work great). You can self-host the recipient machine at home or on some cloud (depends on your internet connection, needs, skills, and budget, I guess). [IMHO it's a must-have skill in our historical era to be able to manage data at a basic level, just like managing one's finances, or health status; so I recommend learning 'enough' about it.] - "Data that only exists once (1 original copy) does not exist." — the idea of a single point of failure without possible recovery. Have at least 3 copies: 1 original (e.g. phone, laptop); 1 'repository' (file server) which aggregates all sources and becomes your central source of authority; 1 backup. (this ensure that you never go below 2 copies, if any 1 fails). I use Google Photos too in addition to Syncthing — sort of a failsafe for uploading. - For long-term storage (photos usually qualify), consider bit rot — the fact that storage devices simply fail partially randomly, i.e. you lose literal bits here and there from time to time, unless precautions are taken (e.g. self-healing ZFS array). This makes cloud services usually attractive, they take care of all the low-level behind-the-scenes shenanigans. Conversely, long-term physical backups (HDD) should periodically be either fully checked or rewritten — but they're far cheaper, now below $25/TB, so it's easy to just have two backups, one 'hot' (disk online) and 1 'cold' (disk in a dry closet). I would recommend a filesystem with checksums. If you need more advice or guidance, feel free to ask questions. [1]: https://syncthing.net/ https://syncthing.net/ [2]: https://www.seafile.com/en/home/ https://www.seafile.com/en/home/
- xwowsersx 7y agoThanks so much for this.
- vlttnv 7y agoDo not rely on a single drive or you'll end up in a situation like me where one day your external drive decides to stop working and 20gb of photos are gone.
- Scarbutt 7y agoWhat happened to your local copy? ;)
- BuckRogers 7y agoI think you know, hence the wink, but usually what happens here is the local copy is lost and the backup has been bad for ages, but never was identified. The lesson learned is to test your backups, which is kind of a pain. While I do keep a single drive backup, to restore my entire drive from, but I do not test this backup. If it doesn't work, it's not that big of a deal. I cherry pick what I really find important and burn it to M-DISCs. Very little content is actually that important, baby photos and things like this.
- heavyset_go 7y agoS3 is never the cheapest/most cost-effective way to backup anything.
- lallysingh 7y agoA NAS that backs up to amazon glacier. Or glacier directly if you have something that'll stay on / awake long enough with your data to do it.