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Wage garnishing is easy? If you have an employer then now they are on the hook for following through as well. Hell, shut down the restitution centers and use t

by rtpg 7y ago

Wage garnishing is easy? If you have an employer then now they are on the hook for following through as well. Hell, shut down the restitution centers and use that budget to help cover court fees instead! Think about it: if someone gets fined $10,000 and is working minimum wage, is there really anything good accomplished by trying to recover that much? Just cap out some wage garnishment scheme if you want to fine them.

SamReidHughes 7y ago
The criminal has an actual victim who needs his money back. It's pretty important to him (or her) that he gets his money back. Maybe she could pay the restitution with the money she embezzled. She also skipped her meeting with her probation officer, more than once, and she didn't report to the probation officer (or the court, whatever) that she got an increase in income, when she got her job at Harrah's. Funny, that. They don't mention that in the article, do they. Here's the hearing transcript: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6598211-Annita-Husband-Revocation-Hearing-Transcript.html https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6598211-Annita-Husba...
- rtpg 7y ago
  - the fines are not merely around making victims whole. There’s also just fines as punishment on top of that - even if they are just about that, do you think that a debtors prison is going to get that money back sooner? - given how being broke in America is basically a death sentence, I have empathy for people trying to scrape by - (now we’re in income reporting reform!) why isn’t Harrahs reporting the wage increase? Why even give opportunities for lies/mistakes/omissions? Even if what you said is true, putting people in jail is not super ethical nor is it useful at accomplishing much for society, for the individuals involved, and “punishment as deference” is disproved so much. Not seeing the argument for this programs continued existence
- lsiebert 7y ago
  Per the article, most of the money wasn't used for restitution, and many individuals are arrested for merely not paying fines and fees, no restitution given. That's just criminalizing being poor.
- FireBeyond 7y ago
  Absolutely they mentioned it in the article.
  - SamReidHughes 7y ago
    Where do they mention that she didn't report an increase in income?

by rtpg 7y ago

SamReidHughes 7y ago

The criminal has an actual victim who needs his money back. It's pretty important to him (or her) that he gets his money back. Maybe she could pay the restitution with the money she embezzled. She also skipped her meeting with her probation officer, more than once, and she didn't report to the probation officer (or the court, whatever) that she got an increase in income, when she got her job at Harrah's. Funny, that. They don't mention that in the article, do they. Here's the hearing transcript: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6598211-Annita-Husband-Revocation-Hearing-Transcript.html https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6598211-Annita-Husba...

rtpg 7y ago
- the fines are not merely around making victims whole. There’s also just fines as punishment on top of that - even if they are just about that, do you think that a debtors prison is going to get that money back sooner? - given how being broke in America is basically a death sentence, I have empathy for people trying to scrape by - (now we’re in income reporting reform!) why isn’t Harrahs reporting the wage increase? Why even give opportunities for lies/mistakes/omissions? Even if what you said is true, putting people in jail is not super ethical nor is it useful at accomplishing much for society, for the individuals involved, and “punishment as deference” is disproved so much. Not seeing the argument for this programs continued existence
lsiebert 7y ago
Per the article, most of the money wasn't used for restitution, and many individuals are arrested for merely not paying fines and fees, no restitution given. That's just criminalizing being poor.
FireBeyond 7y ago
Absolutely they mentioned it in the article.
- SamReidHughes 7y ago
  Where do they mention that she didn't report an increase in income?