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This is more of an anti-poverty move and trying to help anyone. In a lot of places in America the dollar general is the only place you can buy groceries, and ev

This is more of an anti-poverty move and trying to help anyone. In a lot of places in America the dollar general is the only place you can buy groceries, and even if you’re lucky enough to have a grocery store nearby, it’s not gonna be some fancy Trader Joe’s. City should be encouraging more food and grocery outlet’s to open, not restricting them.

toomuchtodo 7y ago
You typically ban dollar stores and then support coop or other supported grocery stores that’d be unable to compete against a corporate competitor. Also, previously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20464624 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20464624
- barry-cotter 7y ago
  This suggests the problem is demand not supply. There are small locally run grocery stores in every immigrant neighborhood in the US and they compete just fine against corporate competitors. This is equivalent to the food desert myth. > The Geography of Poverty and Nutrition: Food Deserts and Food Choices Across the United States > We study the causes of “nutritional inequality”: why the wealthy tend to eat more healthfully than the poor in the U.S. Using two event study designs exploiting entry of new supermarkets and households’ moves to healthier neighborhoods, we reject that neighborhood environments have economically meaningful effects on healthy eating. Using a structural demand model, we find that exposing low-income households to the same food availability and prices experienced by high-income households would reduce nutritional inequality by only 9%, while the remaining 91% is driven by differences in demand. In turn, these income-related demand differences are partially explained by education, nutrition knowledge, and regional preferences. These findings contrast with discussions of nutritional inequality that emphasize supply-side issues such as food deserts. http://www.nber.org/papers/w24094 http://www.nber.org/papers/w24094
WWLink 7y ago
Heh. It's ironic that Trader Joe's tries to advertise that they are all about "low cost healthy food" because I don't exactly see them clamoring to open a store in the lower income parts of CA. It's always in the affluent neighborhoods.
- Rebelgecko 7y ago
  Many of the lower income neighborhoods in CA have demographics that tend to shop more at ethnic markets. I wouldn't be surprised if they had a hard time competing against carnicerias like Northgate
  - casefields 7y ago
    That's not why they avoid those neighborhoods. It's because they steal. That's the problems the big supermarkets have out here in Los Angeles when maintaining stores in poorer neighborhoods.

toomuchtodo 7y ago

You typically ban dollar stores and then support coop or other supported grocery stores that’d be unable to compete against a corporate competitor. Also, previously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20464624 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20464624

barry-cotter 7y ago
This suggests the problem is demand not supply. There are small locally run grocery stores in every immigrant neighborhood in the US and they compete just fine against corporate competitors. This is equivalent to the food desert myth. > The Geography of Poverty and Nutrition: Food Deserts and Food Choices Across the United States > We study the causes of “nutritional inequality”: why the wealthy tend to eat more healthfully than the poor in the U.S. Using two event study designs exploiting entry of new supermarkets and households’ moves to healthier neighborhoods, we reject that neighborhood environments have economically meaningful effects on healthy eating. Using a structural demand model, we find that exposing low-income households to the same food availability and prices experienced by high-income households would reduce nutritional inequality by only 9%, while the remaining 91% is driven by differences in demand. In turn, these income-related demand differences are partially explained by education, nutrition knowledge, and regional preferences. These findings contrast with discussions of nutritional inequality that emphasize supply-side issues such as food deserts. http://www.nber.org/papers/w24094 http://www.nber.org/papers/w24094

WWLink 7y ago

Heh. It's ironic that Trader Joe's tries to advertise that they are all about "low cost healthy food" because I don't exactly see them clamoring to open a store in the lower income parts of CA. It's always in the affluent neighborhoods.

Rebelgecko 7y ago
Many of the lower income neighborhoods in CA have demographics that tend to shop more at ethnic markets. I wouldn't be surprised if they had a hard time competing against carnicerias like Northgate
- casefields 7y ago
  That's not why they avoid those neighborhoods. It's because they steal. That's the problems the big supermarkets have out here in Los Angeles when maintaining stores in poorer neighborhoods.