> "...are on record as implying" [citation needed]. Citation brought bellow in this thread, whether or not it implies what I believe it implies is probably not

> "...are on record as implying" [citation needed]. Citation brought bellow in this thread, whether or not it implies what I believe it implies is probably not an argument to be had here. > You obviously have no idea how much the Rabbis (or even the layman Orthodox) believe this stuff. You obviously have no idea how different the notion of G-d as taught by some Rabbis is from the one that is presented to the layman Orthodox. For that matter the way that the Pope thinks of G-d today is not the same that the layman Christian does. And I don't believe that all of them believe in G-d allegorically but I think the foundational ones mentioned in the Talmud did, the Rambam (Maimonides) too probably. > It makes no sense that the people who gave up their lives rather than give in on minutiae didn't believe in G-d. It makes the same amount of sense for a literal belief as it does for an allegorical one, the 'minutiae' is a symbol for the underlying principle of self-determination. > Without sources, your claim should be dismissed as projection or wishful thinking. Precisely.