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What “other incurable conditions” do doctors not even attempt to treat and simply tell patients to “accept who they are and deal with it”?

by dpark 7y ago

dr_dshiv 7y ago
Well, helping people cope and find acceptance could be a form of treatment. I am a little scared by the number of my friends who have gone on the medical transgender journey.
allovernow 7y ago
You realize that the alternative is telling people to spend the rest of their lives in an irreversible, elaborate fantasy LARP? One which potentially comes with its own burdens and eventually leads to permanent sterilization? I'm not saying don't treat it. I'm saying hormones and plastic surgery do not make a woman, and more sane treatment would acknowledge this fact and teach coping skills much in the same way we are forced to treat conditions like autism, drug resistant depression, and any other chronic disorder with no cure. A treatment which is based entirely on indulging delusion is no treatment at all, and the bottom line is that you don't get to decide how your gender is perceived. The vast majority of men have no interest in dating or marrying transgender women and it's a disservice to those with gender dismorphia to pretend like they do. What happened to past messages of learning to accept who you are and be comfortable in your own skin? Why stop here? Why not prescribe plastic surgery to teenage girls who don't feel that they're pretty enough for their gender role?
- dpark 7y ago
  If you don’t support gender transitioning, fine, but don’t pretend that your concern is for the person transitioning as if they don’t understand the implications. Your agenda is painfully clear and has nothing to do with the ethics of prescribing hormones when we don’t fully understand them: “I'm saying hormones and plastic surgery do not make a woman”. The reality is that we don’t understand any medicine particularly well, but we do our best to treat an endless array of diseases and disorders anyway, because it’s more ethical to attempt to ease pain and discomfort than to ignore suffering. Also people do regularly get plastic surgery to address aesthetic concerns. Would you advocate that people with cleft lips should simply learn to accept who they are and we should consider it unethical to correct the deformity?

What “other incurable conditions” do doctors not even attempt to treat and simply tell patients to “accept who they are and deal with it”?

by dpark 7y ago

What “other incurable conditions” do doctors not even attempt to treat and simply tell patients to “accept who they are and deal with it”?

dr_dshiv 7y ago

Well, helping people cope and find acceptance could be a form of treatment. I am a little scared by the number of my friends who have gone on the medical transgender journey.

allovernow 7y ago

You realize that the alternative is telling people to spend the rest of their lives in an irreversible, elaborate fantasy LARP? One which potentially comes with its own burdens and eventually leads to permanent sterilization? I'm not saying don't treat it. I'm saying hormones and plastic surgery do not make a woman, and more sane treatment would acknowledge this fact and teach coping skills much in the same way we are forced to treat conditions like autism, drug resistant depression, and any other chronic disorder with no cure. A treatment which is based entirely on indulging delusion is no treatment at all, and the bottom line is that you don't get to decide how your gender is perceived. The vast majority of men have no interest in dating or marrying transgender women and it's a disservice to those with gender dismorphia to pretend like they do. What happened to past messages of learning to accept who you are and be comfortable in your own skin? Why stop here? Why not prescribe plastic surgery to teenage girls who don't feel that they're pretty enough for their gender role?

dpark 7y ago
If you don’t support gender transitioning, fine, but don’t pretend that your concern is for the person transitioning as if they don’t understand the implications. Your agenda is painfully clear and has nothing to do with the ethics of prescribing hormones when we don’t fully understand them: “I'm saying hormones and plastic surgery do not make a woman”. The reality is that we don’t understand any medicine particularly well, but we do our best to treat an endless array of diseases and disorders anyway, because it’s more ethical to attempt to ease pain and discomfort than to ignore suffering. Also people do regularly get plastic surgery to address aesthetic concerns. Would you advocate that people with cleft lips should simply learn to accept who they are and we should consider it unethical to correct the deformity?