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Isn't working alone part of being self-taught? My school tried to teach good habits. Many of the professors are out of touch with what good habits are though,

Isn't working alone part of being self-taught? My school tried to teach good habits. Many of the professors are out of touch with what good habits are though, so they usually teach to books of varying quality or practices specific to how they learned a few decades ago.

dathinab 7y ago
Yes, through it might also happen if you are not self thought and even if you work in teams as long as you don't do proper reviewed with time to fix non critical problems in a PR it's still like working alone. Which isn't good. I do count school and University courses as self thought, just with a sometimes better fundation (but sadly often with a worth one too). As long as you don't have someone who checks your code or does pair programming it's all self thought just with different sources of input. Also school/uni projects tend to be not that useful either even if you do pair programming, because the people you pair up with have roughly the same experience like you (most times).
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nicoburns 7y ago
Not necessarily. Me and a friend both taught ourselves, and made projects together (games, websites, etc). I guess we partly taught each other, but there was no expert or teacher involved. Besides, self-taught programmers have to work with others as soon as they get their first job.
ericb 7y ago
Yes, but I think there's a stage learning where you learn "this is how I work in a manner that lets me get along with others." There are a lot of ways to gain the knowledge of this stage. One part of it is working on projects that you will maintain for a while--this lets you see the cost of tech debt. Another part of this evolution comes from working with others--you learn where your code falls short, and you learn better conventions. The right environment helps a programmer evolve through this stage. In a similar vein, stay at home moms or dads may choose to send their child to daycare a day or two a week to learn how to interact with others. Without these learnings, life, or work, can be more challenging.

dathinab 7y ago

Yes, through it might also happen if you are not self thought and even if you work in teams as long as you don't do proper reviewed with time to fix non critical problems in a PR it's still like working alone. Which isn't good. I do count school and University courses as self thought, just with a sometimes better fundation (but sadly often with a worth one too). As long as you don't have someone who checks your code or does pair programming it's all self thought just with different sources of input. Also school/uni projects tend to be not that useful either even if you do pair programming, because the people you pair up with have roughly the same experience like you (most times).

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nicoburns 7y ago

Not necessarily. Me and a friend both taught ourselves, and made projects together (games, websites, etc). I guess we partly taught each other, but there was no expert or teacher involved. Besides, self-taught programmers have to work with others as soon as they get their first job.

ericb 7y ago

Yes, but I think there's a stage learning where you learn "this is how I work in a manner that lets me get along with others." There are a lot of ways to gain the knowledge of this stage. One part of it is working on projects that you will maintain for a while--this lets you see the cost of tech debt. Another part of this evolution comes from working with others--you learn where your code falls short, and you learn better conventions. The right environment helps a programmer evolve through this stage. In a similar vein, stay at home moms or dads may choose to send their child to daycare a day or two a week to learn how to interact with others. Without these learnings, life, or work, can be more challenging.