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This doesn't bother me one bit. I think he's making a mistake though. Taylor Swift, Timbaland, and Bruno Mars are all arguably homogenous music made by marketi

This doesn't bother me one bit. I think he's making a mistake though. Taylor Swift, Timbaland, and Bruno Mars are all arguably homogenous music made by marketing groups for middle American focus groups. They are endlessly replaceable, rather forgettable, artists and will be lost to history by the 'next big thing' that sounds just like it or very similar in a year or two. It has more in common with pop fashion than originally expressive art. Music made by marketers for middle America focus groups commodifies music so that the next thing can easily replace the current thing. Who remembers blaque, or 3LW, or All-4-One or the train is boy and girl bands from the past? This is just the music business cannibalizing itself. Truly expressive, original, personal, music will always be timeless in my opinion, because its irreplaceable, the style is non reproducible, and it's pretty much unexplainable how it's created.even by the artist...see led zepp, Beatles, Billy Corgan, Mozart, etc. etc. That's my thoughts and what music I think what he should be focusing on.

dangus 7y ago
This gives me the impression that you didn't quite get what the article was about, and I'm not supposed to suggest that you didn't read it but let's just say I have my suspicions. This company is often buying songwriter's catalogs, not just specific public-facing artists that come and go. And while you may not remember the artists names, these songs often end up in commercials and other adaptations that generate revenue, even if they're not actually the original recording. If a commercial plays the song "Whip It," do you remember that it was performed by Devo? I sure didn't, but I've seen it in a heck of a lot of commercials, like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqnPciNhQXU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqnPciNhQXU The rights holder to that song undoubtedly made money from that commercial, even though the lyrics have been changed. The importance of the songwriter over the artist has been growing, all of this was mentioned in the article.
- redis_mlc 7y ago
  > The importance of the songwriter over the artist has been growing, all of this was mentioned in the article. That has always been the case in the USA. The band's songwriter buys a mansion, and the rest rent apartments. The Go-gos (writer Jane Wiedlin), Twisted Sister (writer Dee Snyder) and Smashing Pumpkins (writer Billy Corrigan) broke up over that, and prolly a majority of other bands. Songwriter Diane Warren is prolly a billionaire: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_written_by_Diane_Warren https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_written_by_Diane... What's interesting is that above even that is owning publishing rights, pioneered by Frank Sinatra. He produced his own albums, then after he mastered he shopped for a distributor. Almost no US musicians bothered to retain publishing rights, aside from Steve Vai, Frank Zappa and a few other hard-asses. I tell Youtubers to "own your publishing." Source: in the biz.
loso 7y ago
This comment is very focused on your point of view of what timeless music is. Plus your examples of who remembers are all artist or groups who were big for a song or two. Middle tier artists. There is a difference as far as staying power between the first set of artist (Swift, Timbaland, Bruno Mars)you used as an example and the second set (Blaque, 3LW, etc).

dangus 7y ago

This gives me the impression that you didn't quite get what the article was about, and I'm not supposed to suggest that you didn't read it but let's just say I have my suspicions. This company is often buying songwriter's catalogs, not just specific public-facing artists that come and go. And while you may not remember the artists names, these songs often end up in commercials and other adaptations that generate revenue, even if they're not actually the original recording. If a commercial plays the song "Whip It," do you remember that it was performed by Devo? I sure didn't, but I've seen it in a heck of a lot of commercials, like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqnPciNhQXU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqnPciNhQXU The rights holder to that song undoubtedly made money from that commercial, even though the lyrics have been changed. The importance of the songwriter over the artist has been growing, all of this was mentioned in the article.

redis_mlc 7y ago
> The importance of the songwriter over the artist has been growing, all of this was mentioned in the article. That has always been the case in the USA. The band's songwriter buys a mansion, and the rest rent apartments. The Go-gos (writer Jane Wiedlin), Twisted Sister (writer Dee Snyder) and Smashing Pumpkins (writer Billy Corrigan) broke up over that, and prolly a majority of other bands. Songwriter Diane Warren is prolly a billionaire: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_written_by_Diane_Warren https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_written_by_Diane... What's interesting is that above even that is owning publishing rights, pioneered by Frank Sinatra. He produced his own albums, then after he mastered he shopped for a distributor. Almost no US musicians bothered to retain publishing rights, aside from Steve Vai, Frank Zappa and a few other hard-asses. I tell Youtubers to "own your publishing." Source: in the biz.

loso 7y ago

This comment is very focused on your point of view of what timeless music is. Plus your examples of who remembers are all artist or groups who were big for a song or two. Middle tier artists. There is a difference as far as staying power between the first set of artist (Swift, Timbaland, Bruno Mars)you used as an example and the second set (Blaque, 3LW, etc).