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>Oh yea, I almost forgot. How did OP here know about the new release of OpenWRT? They have no end-user mailing list. They don't have a twitter feed. They don't

by gsich 7y ago

>Oh yea, I almost forgot. How did OP here know about the new release of OpenWRT? They have no end-user mailing list. They don't have a twitter feed. They don't do facebook. They seem to hate their userbase because they have NO MECHANISM to alert end-users that there's a new release of the operating system. The update the wiki, maybe do a forum post if you are lucky, and that's it. Pure word-of-mouth. RSS. https://openwrt.org/feed.php?mode=list&ns= https://openwrt.org/feed.php?mode=list&ns=

zdw 7y ago
OP here. This is correct. RSS/Atom is alive and well, mainly because it's built into every CMS and blog engine by default, but requires some digging through the HEAD of a page to get it into a reader now that most browsers don't treat is as a first class format.
- gsich 7y ago
  Yeah I blame the browser vendors, mainly Google and Mozilla. Enough resource to do shit like Webassembly, but apparently a XML format is too complex to integrate.
  - fencepost 7y ago
    Perhaps dealing with flaky or inconsistent feeds was a problem? Particularly in a "why is your browser broken and unable to read this feed?" situation where it turns out the feed is a mess. If you don't support the feature, you don't get blamed for not handling all the weird edge cases.
    - gsich 7y ago
      I doubt that. HTML itself has the same problem. Browser vendors can't fathom the idea that content is not displayed on the website. Drive for centralisation, especially from Google. Mozilla corporate BSed their way out of RSS. Their source for their claim that "nobody uses RSS" comes from their telemetry. Not one thought was given to the idea that maybe RSS users simply disable that more often?
flas9sd 7y ago
dokuwikis RSS feed will list recent changes - and does as of writing not show the 19.07 release post. I'm not intimate with the feed.php if it can be used to list the frontpage with the exact post. I remember I searched for ways to know about new releases in the past and came out to list the top posts of r/openwrt now and then as the forum and openwrt-devel list are high-frequency. This is not a complaint - the wiki is big, the lede/openwrt division very likely incurred a cost that the project still has to recover from. Actually a openwrt-announce mailinglist exists, but nothing is send there yet. "Announcements" has been one of the topics in a recent meeting - https://openwrt.org/meetings/20191121 https://openwrt.org/meetings/20191121
- gsich 7y ago
  https://openwrt.org/feed.php?mode=list&ns= https://openwrt.org/feed.php?mode=list&ns= does list 19.07.

by gsich 7y ago

zdw 7y ago

OP here. This is correct. RSS/Atom is alive and well, mainly because it's built into every CMS and blog engine by default, but requires some digging through the HEAD of a page to get it into a reader now that most browsers don't treat is as a first class format.

gsich 7y ago
Yeah I blame the browser vendors, mainly Google and Mozilla. Enough resource to do shit like Webassembly, but apparently a XML format is too complex to integrate.
- fencepost 7y ago
  Perhaps dealing with flaky or inconsistent feeds was a problem? Particularly in a "why is your browser broken and unable to read this feed?" situation where it turns out the feed is a mess. If you don't support the feature, you don't get blamed for not handling all the weird edge cases.
  - gsich 7y ago
    I doubt that. HTML itself has the same problem. Browser vendors can't fathom the idea that content is not displayed on the website. Drive for centralisation, especially from Google. Mozilla corporate BSed their way out of RSS. Their source for their claim that "nobody uses RSS" comes from their telemetry. Not one thought was given to the idea that maybe RSS users simply disable that more often?

flas9sd 7y ago

dokuwikis RSS feed will list recent changes - and does as of writing not show the 19.07 release post. I'm not intimate with the feed.php if it can be used to list the frontpage with the exact post. I remember I searched for ways to know about new releases in the past and came out to list the top posts of r/openwrt now and then as the forum and openwrt-devel list are high-frequency. This is not a complaint - the wiki is big, the lede/openwrt division very likely incurred a cost that the project still has to recover from. Actually a openwrt-announce mailinglist exists, but nothing is send there yet. "Announcements" has been one of the topics in a recent meeting - https://openwrt.org/meetings/20191121 https://openwrt.org/meetings/20191121

gsich 7y ago
https://openwrt.org/feed.php?mode=list&ns= https://openwrt.org/feed.php?mode=list&ns= does list 19.07.