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The issue there is that new songs ans creativity destroys value of old songs and so this way of treating copyright plus no entries to public domain means that o

The issue there is that new songs ans creativity destroys value of old songs and so this way of treating copyright plus no entries to public domain means that old songs will be pushed forward all the time whereas new songs have no incentive at all to emerge. Especially if distribution is consolidated between a few actors.

HenryBemis 7y ago
Oh how I totally disagree with you... I thought I'd never move on to listen to "what kids listen to these days" and "most of it is crap". And then a cousin (with similar music taste) pointed me to "Post Rock" genre.. Mogwai (yes from the movie), Bloc Party, Sigur Ros, God is an Astronaut, 65daysofstatic.. I now split my time between good old classic heavy metal (Iron Maiden - Iron Maiden)(anything after 7nth son is junk imho), Metallica (up to Justice..), everything Sepultura, basically eveything rock/metal up-to-early-1990. I get it that for new musicians it's hard to find their place in the world/market, but go start your own cafe/bakery/what-have-you and face competition. Porter's five forces to the max!
- corrys 7y ago
  Strange to see Block Party in this list! Also post rock had its time in the late 90s / early 00s. Doubt we can put it in the category “what kids listen to these days”. This category today is more along the lines of Post Malone and Lil Yachty.
  - masklinn 7y ago
    TBF GP's comment was responding to > new songs ans creativity destroys value of old songs […] new songs have no incentive at all to emerge and though it's probably not the most popular genre today, there's plenty of post rock being made these days: https://www.reddit.com/r/postrock/wiki/albums/2019 https://www.reddit.com/r/postrock/wiki/albums/2019
- prpl 7y ago
  You might try out Mono, Boris, Pelican, Mastodon, Drive Like Jehu, Hot Snakes. Maybe Pissed Jeans and Envy, but that might be a bit too punk rock.
- chx 7y ago
  > anything after 7nth son is junk imho those are fighting words, my friend. Fear of the Dark and Paschendale are just two examples that came after Seventh Son and are rightly played often by the band at their concerts and immensely popular.
  - HenryBemis 7y ago
    heh, talking about dogma (I just did), and my favourite IM singer is Paul, NOT Bruce. Although Bruce has a better/richer voice, I like the punk-tone of Paul's voice. I have this "fight" with my mates everyone we go to see IM live :)
    - chx 7y ago
      Dogma? Although you probably didn't mean https://youtu.be/Cz6FOyTmFUA https://youtu.be/Cz6FOyTmFUA it's what jumped to my mind, it's a really beautiful song for sure.
- ModernMech 7y ago
  You might want to try the band "This Will Destroy You". I bet it's right up your alley.
- stdclass 7y ago
  If you dig sigur ros and god is an astronaut, check out my post rock band MOLLY, we kind of go in the same direction :) /shameless selfplug
- 52-6F-62 7y ago
  Haha I’m going to join the others who seemed to get excited at your comment. This is a short, two-part doc about a small music venue I was fortunate enough to spend my late teens and early twenties frequenting. It was the closest thing to my small town that brought me a lot of music from the generation you’re listing. Searching YouTube will unearth performances from the place. I’m in one of the group photos they put up somewhere in this. I miss the place. Some of Tim and Scott's stories are entertaining and worth the listen. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ngBr-WiQ5ek https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ngBr-WiQ5ek
corrys 7y ago
New songs do have an incentive to emerge - it’s just human creativity. In the last 2 decades distribution has been massively democratized, the opposite of what your fear is. Anyone can distribute their music online to billions of people for free (YouTube, SoundCloud, etc).

HenryBemis 7y ago

Oh how I totally disagree with you... I thought I'd never move on to listen to "what kids listen to these days" and "most of it is crap". And then a cousin (with similar music taste) pointed me to "Post Rock" genre.. Mogwai (yes from the movie), Bloc Party, Sigur Ros, God is an Astronaut, 65daysofstatic.. I now split my time between good old classic heavy metal (Iron Maiden - Iron Maiden)(anything after 7nth son is junk imho), Metallica (up to Justice..), everything Sepultura, basically eveything rock/metal up-to-early-1990. I get it that for new musicians it's hard to find their place in the world/market, but go start your own cafe/bakery/what-have-you and face competition. Porter's five forces to the max!

corrys 7y ago
Strange to see Block Party in this list! Also post rock had its time in the late 90s / early 00s. Doubt we can put it in the category “what kids listen to these days”. This category today is more along the lines of Post Malone and Lil Yachty.
- masklinn 7y ago
  TBF GP's comment was responding to > new songs ans creativity destroys value of old songs […] new songs have no incentive at all to emerge and though it's probably not the most popular genre today, there's plenty of post rock being made these days: https://www.reddit.com/r/postrock/wiki/albums/2019 https://www.reddit.com/r/postrock/wiki/albums/2019
prpl 7y ago
You might try out Mono, Boris, Pelican, Mastodon, Drive Like Jehu, Hot Snakes. Maybe Pissed Jeans and Envy, but that might be a bit too punk rock.
chx 7y ago
> anything after 7nth son is junk imho those are fighting words, my friend. Fear of the Dark and Paschendale are just two examples that came after Seventh Son and are rightly played often by the band at their concerts and immensely popular.
- HenryBemis 7y ago
  heh, talking about dogma (I just did), and my favourite IM singer is Paul, NOT Bruce. Although Bruce has a better/richer voice, I like the punk-tone of Paul's voice. I have this "fight" with my mates everyone we go to see IM live :)
  - chx 7y ago
    Dogma? Although you probably didn't mean https://youtu.be/Cz6FOyTmFUA https://youtu.be/Cz6FOyTmFUA it's what jumped to my mind, it's a really beautiful song for sure.
ModernMech 7y ago
You might want to try the band "This Will Destroy You". I bet it's right up your alley.
stdclass 7y ago
If you dig sigur ros and god is an astronaut, check out my post rock band MOLLY, we kind of go in the same direction :) /shameless selfplug
52-6F-62 7y ago
Haha I’m going to join the others who seemed to get excited at your comment. This is a short, two-part doc about a small music venue I was fortunate enough to spend my late teens and early twenties frequenting. It was the closest thing to my small town that brought me a lot of music from the generation you’re listing. Searching YouTube will unearth performances from the place. I’m in one of the group photos they put up somewhere in this. I miss the place. Some of Tim and Scott's stories are entertaining and worth the listen. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ngBr-WiQ5ek https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ngBr-WiQ5ek

corrys 7y ago

New songs do have an incentive to emerge - it’s just human creativity. In the last 2 decades distribution has been massively democratized, the opposite of what your fear is. Anyone can distribute their music online to billions of people for free (YouTube, SoundCloud, etc).