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I mean, to be fair, back in the days before Uber the abuses some riders got from drivers was even more sickening. Giving them the right to refuse rides arbitrar

I mean, to be fair, back in the days before Uber the abuses some riders got from drivers was even more sickening. Giving them the right to refuse rides arbitrarily is not really the greatest thing for consumers.

kevingadd 7y ago
It has downsides (like redlining, for one thing) but those downsides already existed in the traditional cab model, so it's at least not worse. Given the problems upfront ride pricing caused for drivers I think it's reasonable for it to go away, even if it's slightly less convenient for me as a passenger. Ideally the problems with abuse of ride cancellation can just be solved via universal methods that apply to uber, lyft, AND traditional cabs. There's plenty of data available so it is feasible to use that data to police abuses of the system.
smsm42 7y ago
Why not? I certainly don't want to be driven by somebody who doesn't want to drive me and hates my guts for being forced into driving me. I'd rather he refused and another willing driver pick up the job.
- freepor 7y ago
  Now imagine you live in a housing project and need to get to work and nobody will pick you up.
  - fujiters 7y ago
    One would think the price would increase until someone would pick you up. Uber should add the ability to bid up your route--like when it's taking a long time to match you to a driver, or you want to entice a driver who is nearby so you can get where you're going sooner.
    - cycrutchfield 7y ago
      You heard it here first, folks. The invisible hand of the market solves racism!
    - nemothekid 7y ago
      You don't find it a bit dystopian that someone has to pay more for a ride only because they live in a poor neighborhood?
      - ema 7y ago
        If driving people from or to poor neighborhoods increase risks for the driver then it's fair risk compensation.
        selimthegrim 7y ago
        Uh, won’t that make the neighborhood, I don’t know, poorer?
- cycrutchfield 7y ago
  It’s a rather privileged position to believe that you have the luxury of other options.
  - michaniskin 7y ago
    It’s a privilege to have the power to force a driver to perform work for you at a price the driver would otherwise refuse.
    - cycrutchfield 7y ago
      No, it is a right to not be discriminated against.

kevingadd 7y ago

It has downsides (like redlining, for one thing) but those downsides already existed in the traditional cab model, so it's at least not worse. Given the problems upfront ride pricing caused for drivers I think it's reasonable for it to go away, even if it's slightly less convenient for me as a passenger. Ideally the problems with abuse of ride cancellation can just be solved via universal methods that apply to uber, lyft, AND traditional cabs. There's plenty of data available so it is feasible to use that data to police abuses of the system.

smsm42 7y ago

Why not? I certainly don't want to be driven by somebody who doesn't want to drive me and hates my guts for being forced into driving me. I'd rather he refused and another willing driver pick up the job.

freepor 7y ago
Now imagine you live in a housing project and need to get to work and nobody will pick you up.
- fujiters 7y ago
  One would think the price would increase until someone would pick you up. Uber should add the ability to bid up your route--like when it's taking a long time to match you to a driver, or you want to entice a driver who is nearby so you can get where you're going sooner.
  - cycrutchfield 7y ago
    You heard it here first, folks. The invisible hand of the market solves racism!
  - nemothekid 7y ago
    You don't find it a bit dystopian that someone has to pay more for a ride only because they live in a poor neighborhood?
    - ema 7y ago
      If driving people from or to poor neighborhoods increase risks for the driver then it's fair risk compensation.
      - selimthegrim 7y ago
        Uh, won’t that make the neighborhood, I don’t know, poorer?
cycrutchfield 7y ago
It’s a rather privileged position to believe that you have the luxury of other options.
- michaniskin 7y ago
  It’s a privilege to have the power to force a driver to perform work for you at a price the driver would otherwise refuse.
  - cycrutchfield 7y ago
    No, it is a right to not be discriminated against.